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  • Don May 9, 2025 at 9:57 AM

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    I find the pose of the Boscoreale pig surprisingly similar to the Herculaneum pig.



    "The Boscoreale Treasure is a large collection of exquisite silver and gold Roman objects discovered in the ruins of the ancient Villa della Pisanella at Boscoreale,…
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    Well said, Kalosyni , kudos!

    I'm reminded of the Christian fish:

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  • Don May 9, 2025 at 9:25 AM

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    Thinking out loud (fully realizing I just said no letters ^^ )

    Φ or Φ - Greek phi

    • = Philosophy
    • Two stylized Ps back to back = Pleasure and Pain
    Some mashup of Greek H eta hedone "pleasure" and Α alpha algos "pain"?

    Pig? Stylized pig? Think Christian fish?

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  • Don May 9, 2025 at 9:09 AM

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    Regarding the use of the symbol of the cross: "Before the 4th century AD, multiple Christian symbols were used, including the fish (Ichthys), the anchor, the ship, and the Chi Rho. These symbols were often found in catacombs and other early Christian…
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    Well said, Kalosyni , kudos!

    I'm reminded of the Christian fish:

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    Time warping from ancient Rome to the recent past... Several years ago I took some notes from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…58/#!po=31.0811; here are some select quotations:

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    This seems to imply getting agreement before actual usage, and I don't think that's how it works. Symbols like these are adopted and used without asking for universal agreement, let alone permission, and they either make it or they don't.…

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