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Suggestions For - "What I Wish I Had Known At 21 That I Now Know From Studying Epicurus"

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  • September 21, 2026 at 8:02 AM
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    • September 21, 2026 at 8:02 AM
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    At yesterday's 20th zoom Patrikios had a very specific suggestion -- that it would be great to have a book of the title in this thread-starter. Such a book might be of interest to a wide group of young people, and would be a good way to summarize for ourselves some of the most important things we have learned.

    In the (current) absence of such a book, it would be helpful to us and motivational to book/article/video producers if we asked for contributions in this thread suggesting points that such a work might contain.

    As an easy but obvious example suggestion, one might be that "I wish I had known at 21 that it was both important and easy to read what Epicurus and other famous Greek philosophers wrote themselves, rather than relying on my teachers or others to explain it to me." And of course it would be good to elaborate on the explanation of the point.

    I'd bet that there's a good chance that more than one of us could take the suggestions in such a list and make some first efforts toward producing the resource that Patrikios was suggesting is needed.

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    I am 23, so I am not far from 21, but this doesn't mean that there is nothing I know now that my younger self would have profitted from knowing.

    I think two of the most valuable things Epicureanism provided me were the value of gratitude and a strong framework to base my general beliefs.

    The gratitude one is pretty obvious. Once upon a time, I was obsessed with all the things that I "needed" in order to be happy. I "needed" lots of money, status, multiple romantic partners, travel the world, seek fancy experiences, etc. I could never enjoy what I had until I got everything that I "needed."

    Now, I have a good, calm job, good(and simple) food, leisure time, and no worries. Not that there is anything wrong with fancy things once in a while, but I hadn't realized that all the pleasure that I needed was already available to me. Now, no matter the meal, I feast like the gods, not because I have infinite means, but because the means I have are more than enough.

    Now, the strong framework for deciding our beliefs is especially important in our modern day. There are endless narratives and rules that are preached out there. Everyone has an opinion on how others should live and the decisions they should take. If you don't have a North to follow, you may end up being carried away by any narrative that sounds reasonable.

    Epicureanism provided me with a series of ideas that serve as my North, which helps me keep my head above all the confusion.

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    • September 26, 2026 at 12:27 PM
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    Quote from SillyApe

    Epicureanism provided me with a series of ideas that serve as my North, which helps me keep my head above all the confusion.

    Excellent contribution, SillyApe. Your post is a very good example of what it would be good to accumulate here.

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