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  5. Living for Pleasure: An Epicurean Guide to Life - Emily Austin

Why Emily Austin's "Living For Pleasure" Book Title Is Particularly Apt

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  • April 14, 2026 at 9:07 PM
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    • April 14, 2026 at 9:07 PM
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    For some reason this following verse escaped my attention til now and I thought i would drop it here:

    I guess we better be careful about recommending Emily Austin's book to widows! :) :)

    1 Timothy 5-6: But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives.

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    • April 14, 2026 at 10:00 PM
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    Does this apply to widowers, too? =O

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    • April 15, 2026 at 9:57 AM
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    I am warned that everyone will not get or appreciate the humor of my comment and it may take more effort to understand the play on words - but like on "Galaxy Quest" -

    "Never Give Up! Never Surrender!" :)

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    • April 15, 2026 at 9:57 AM
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    Does this apply to widowers, too? =O

    According to "our friend" Paul it likely applies to everyone!

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    • April 16, 2026 at 3:44 PM
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    1 Timothy 5-6: But the widow who lives for pleasure is dead even while she lives.


    From a naturalist or Epicurean standpoint, the widow who studies nature, cultivates reason, builds friendships, and finds peace through understanding the world around her is living with extraordinary richness and intentionality. Calling that “dead” does seem not just wrong, but almost perverse. The Epicurean widow arguably has more honest courage — she faces mortality, uncertainty, and the indifference of nature without flinching, and finds joy anyway!

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    She's dead to the community. She's not playing the game and getting into the role the early Christian community laid out for her. The sinning widow is going to hell in a bucket! :D

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