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What would Epicurus have thought of going to the moon?

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  • April 10, 2026 at 11:36 PM
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    • April 10, 2026 at 11:36 PM
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    I didn’t know where else to post this, so if Cassius or Anyone wants to delete and redirect me I’d welcome it…

    What do you think Epicurus would have thought of going to the moon? Would it be extraneous to friendship and community and pleasure, and therefore a search for an unnecessary (and natural or unnatural) goal? Or would he see it as a search for connection, expanding community, and a necessary pleasure of some kind for either an individual or their community? :/

    Discuss. Thank you.

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    • April 11, 2026 at 6:22 AM
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    This is a fine place for this question and thank you for posting it. i may designate it so it appears in an Ehics section as well.

    I expect some highly perceptive answers, and I think the issue is important enough that I don't want anyone to hold back what they really think regardless of what anyone else who posts in this thread says.

    And it might help too if those who post consider the question in terms of both (1) What would Epicurus himself have thought? and (2) What do I (the poster) think?

    Further, I hope the responses won't limit themselves to "the moon" and thereby short-circuit the heart of the question. I doubt ReiWolfWoman is trying to parse the difference between going to the Moon vs going to Mars vs the entire topic of space exploration.

    Should be an interesting discussion.

  • Cassius April 11, 2026 at 6:25 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Moon Shots” to “What would Epicurus have thought of going to the moon?”.
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    • April 11, 2026 at 10:34 AM
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    Would it be extraneous to friendship and community and pleasure, and therefore a search for an unnecessary (and natural or unnatural) goal?

    Not at all.

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    • April 11, 2026 at 5:54 PM
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    OK other than Eikadistes no one is rushing to answer, so I'll start a preliminary response that will be far too short.

    Quote from ReiWolfWoman

    What do you think Epicurus would have thought of going to the moon? Would it be extraneous to friendship and community and pleasure, and therefore a search for an unnecessary (and natural or unnatural) goal? Or would he see it as a search for connection, expanding community, and a necessary pleasure of some kind for either an individual or their community?

    As with all options in life, I think Epicurus would advise evaluating the specifics as it applied to him personally and not take things too abstractly.

    "Going to the moon" could mean the 1969 version where the technology is in its infancy and you're very strongly taking your life in your hands with major possibility of death and not coming home. Or it could mean a 2050 version where the trip may well be routine and doable in great safety and of no more concern than a short vacation to the mountains.

    Then there's the "who." Are we talking about an Epicurus at 30 years old who was in the course of building philosophical school who he thought was of extreme importance not only to himself but to others? Or are we talking about a 70 year old Epicurus with most of his life's work behind him and much less time to lose if he didn't make it back?

    Those are two specific circumstances I think he would advise considering -- but I suspect that's not the answer many people with conventional views of Epicurus will expect.

    They'll expect "Epicurus valued bodily pleasure and safety and tranqulity above all, and it's certainly not NECESSARY to go to the moon, nor is it likely to be a totally tranquil experience, so he'd never do it. You're totally ignoring what everyone says about Epicurean philosophy to say that he'd ever consider it under any circumstances!"

    That's not the answer I'd give ReiWolfWoman, and I hazard to guess that most others here would not say that either.

    And thus you've early in your time at EpicureanFriends.com discovered that this forum was not set up to support conventional views of Epicurus that place in him boxes like "tranquility above all."

    And not only was it not set up to support such views, it's pretty fair to say that it was set up to campaign against them as vigorously as possible. :)

    And the more you look around here at the forum and see the discussions, the more I think you'll see what that is!

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    • April 12, 2026 at 12:35 AM
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    There's also the issue of natural philosophy as well as the anachronistic nature of the situation proposed. Epicurus' life predated so much of our contemporary knowledge, although his thinking in many ways laid the groundwork for it. If he was presented in his day with the opportunity to go to the moon, might the intellectual pleasure of exploring a piece of the sky override the potential dangers involved?

    Further, if somehow he turned up in our time with the opportunity to go to the moon, what would he make of the world we live in, and how would going to the moon compare to the cacophonous comglomeration of stimuli in which we spend our days?

    I may be getting too far afield though. Eikadistes answer is probably the most direct and convincing response :thumbup:

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    • April 12, 2026 at 2:03 AM
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    What do you think Epicurus would have thought of going to the moon?

    Personally think he would consider it freaking awesome. It's important to remember one of Diogenes Laertius sayings about the Epicurean wise man, which people who like to imagine Epicurus as ascetic always love to ignore.

    "He will care more than other men for public spectacles." (Bailey)

    Something as cool as going to moon would surely qualify. We love those spectacles more than others because we truly delight in all pleasures more than other men.

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