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Epicurus Was Not an Atomist (...sort of)

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    • December 22, 2025 at 2:24 PM
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    Greetings, all! I published some thoughts about the limitations in our employment of the word "atomism" as an expression of ancient Epicurean particle physics. I'll admit that I might be splitting hairs here, and exploiting a post-structuralist position about the symbols and their context ... I read a lot of Derrida back in college. I apologize in advance. ^^

    In a nutshell:

    • The notions of "atomism" and "ancient Epicurean particle physics" can be contrasted for nuance.
    • "Atomism" in its context can be understood as an artifact of Renaissance Latin (it carries some prejudices).
    • For most of the modernity, "corpuscularians" rejected "atomism" as "Epicurean atheism" (...super confusing)
    • Fun fact! The root of "atomism" (the "tomism" part) is also used as a synonym for "particles" (without the "a-").
    • Ancient "atoms" correspond better with "sub-atomic" particles than modern "atoms".
    • Consider that all of the "atomists" are, also, technically "voidists" so far as they are "atomists".
    • Particles are described like motes of dust, grains of cereal, and hooklets on flower seeds, not mathematical points.
    • How about them apeirons, microns, and ametabletons?
    • Avoid "ismizing" in the first place! We are students of "the true philosophy" who contemplate "invisible beginnings".

    But, like always, no one gets penalty points for saying "atomists" (I've always been partial to the designation "atom-prophets"). Nor is it a party foul to employ "Epicureanism" instead of "Epicurean Philosophy" (though I try not to.) Elli some of our earlier conversations about language and context lead me down the path of these kinds of thoughts. 8o

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    • December 22, 2025 at 3:31 PM
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    Lot of work there and will take some time to read but thanks for posting!

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    • January 3, 2026 at 10:01 AM
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    Quote from Eikadistes

    Greetings, all! I published some thoughts about the limitations in our employment of the word "atomism" as an expression of ancient Epicurean particle physics. I'll admit that I might be splitting hairs here, and exploiting a post-structuralist position about the symbols and their context

    Eikadistes ,

    Thank you for illuminating us as you ‘share the original flavor of the “true philosophy”’! I greatly appreciate how you provide such in-depth review of the ancient text and translations from Greek to Latin. You provide us an interesting educational viewpoint by challenging the linguistic conventions that have obscured our understanding of the Sage's teachings. By focusing on the actual words from Epicurus, we better understand how he preserves the reality of sensation and the reliability of perception in describing his physics.

    Thanks for an enlightening article. 👍

    Patrikios

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