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    Welcome ernesto.sun ~!

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    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from most other philosophies, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit of truth and happy living through pleasure as explained in the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

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    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

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    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

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    Hello my new digital friends!

    Epicurus not only explains friendship like nobody else (we know of), he also is a (the) good reason to be friends. (at least good neighbors)

    Well - that's a fuzzy start - and a personal one. I am definitely far from the scientific level you present in writing and in your podcast. I am not so much about science than about living the Epicurean life.

    I am an early-retired Austrian eco-activist. Some years already having hands off politics, living in my big wild garden. Having friends - lots of philosophizing. Here - in my garden - when I am alone (all-one) I like to listen to philosophic podcasts. So, I came across Epicurus. With 46 years of age, just last year, all my life talking about just that. Well, Parmenides with his 'absolute truth' and Diogenes with his 'cool anarchy' were my idols (and always will be). But Epicurus is so much more advanced still - so modern. I am maybe in love right now (limerence), but I do say this: Epicurus is my master. I am a complete disciple. I want to dedicate the rest of my life to his philosophy.

    Thanks to https://historyofphilosophy.net where I first realized how big Epicurus is.

    Well - however - I might not participate so much here. I am honored to be registered, but I spent most of my time at 'Analoge KEPOS' and less at 'Digital KEPOS'. Maybe because I am a professional web dev and doing PC work too much anyway. I am sooo thankful for this initiative of yours here and also at https://newepicurean.com That way I am a little relieved.

    I do want to help the German Wikipedia to know more about 'Epikur', 'EPIKOUROS'. I also want to make a brief intro into Epicurus' philosophy in 'modern language', in German, English and Spanish at my domain: http://epikouros.info

    My model for that little intro-website is this page well known among web-devs: . https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/

    I did study 'Knowledge Management' and 'Software Development' and do know how to write scientific texts and all that academia style - however - I am more about a wild Epicurean myself - more at the provocative side maybe. I still struggle to keep my word away from politics. I am a left anarchist of course.

    I appreciate your work here at https://www.epicureanfriends.com a huge lot - I will consume all the podcasts you did so nicely. I will read into all edges of this 'Digital KEPOS', ... But - I will contribute little I guess. However - always welcome to ask anything of me. I do think natural intelligence is directly related to the ability of growing healthy friendships. Thus, wanting to be seen as intelligent, I also want to be helpful.

    I love the science of language - linguistics and especially the field of semantics. I always start with German - because thats native to Austrians. So - I did some super-compression of Epicurus' messages. Not ready yet - I want to present it to you. Find it below in English and German.

    Thank you all so much for your work and play!!!

    All (=) Love, Ernesto ~:)

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    1) Nature infinite and eternal.
    2) Abundance all around.
    3) Pleasure in calmness.
    4) Joy and then death.
    5) Moderate living.
    6) All is in flux.
    7) Friendship.
    8 ) Philosophy.
    9) Live now!
    10) Celebrate Epicurus!
    11) Celebrate Epicurus!


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    1) Do not fear God! Why worry about God when he doesn't worry about us?

    2) Fear no lack! Good things are easy to get.

    3) Avoid pain, but don't fear it! The bad is easy to bear.

    4) Don't fear death! Where death is, we are not. Where we are, death is not.

    5) Moderate yourself! Where enough is not enough, no amount is sufficient.

    6) Don't hold back! Follow your desires that do not harm you or others.

    7) Support others! Being a good friend is just as important as having good friends.

    8 ) Philosophize! It's never too early or too late to know how to live a good life.

    9) Live now! Enjoy your day as if it were the last one of your short life.

    10) Celebrate Epicurus! He is the philosopher who showed us the middle way.

    11) Celebrate Epicurus! Epicurus birthday is celebrated between 7. and 11. of Jan.


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    1) Natur unendlich und ewig.
    2) Überfluss überall.
    3) Glück in der Ruhe.
    4) Freude und dann Tod.
    5) Gemäßigtes Leben.
    6) Alles im Fluss.
    7) Freundschaft.
    8 ) Philosophie.
    9) Jetzt leben!
    10) Epikur feiern!
    11) Epikur feiern!

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    1) Fürchte nicht Gott! Wozu sich um Gott kümmern, wo er sich ja um uns nicht kümmert?!

    2) Fürchte keinen Mangel! Das Gute ist leicht zu bekommen.

    3) Vermeide Schmerz, doch fürchte ihn nicht! Das Schlechte ist leicht zu ertragen.

    4) Fürchte den Tod nicht! Wo der Tod, da sind wir nicht. Wo wir sind, da nicht der Tod.

    5) Mäßige dich! Wo genug nicht genug, da reicht keine Menge.

    6) Halte nichts zurück! Folge deinen Wünschen die weder dir noch anderen schaden.

    7) Hilf anderen! Ein guter Freund zu sein ist genauso wichtig wie gute Freunde zu haben.

    8 ) Philosophiere! Es ist nie zu früh oder zu spät, um zu lernen, wie man gut lebt.

    9) Lebe jetzt! Genieße deinen Tag, als wäre es der letzte deines kurzen Lebens.

    10) Feiere Epikur! Er ist der Philosoph, der uns den Weg der Mitte gezeigt hat.

    11) Feiere Epikur! Epikurs Geburtstag wird zwischen dem 7. und 11. Januar gefeiert.

    All (=) Love!

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    Welcome Ernesto.Sun!

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    I like your style, Ernesto - welcome!

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