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    • July 16, 2025 at 12:54 PM

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    This shows that attempts to countercheck AI by letting it contrast different positions may still lead to misleading nonsense. You already need to be an expert to make good use of AI.

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  • Epicurus' Prolepsis vs Heraclitus' Flux

    • Martin
    • July 10, 2025 at 12:05 PM

    Grok misclassified Sabine Hossenfelder. Her insistence on hard determinism makes her the most extreme physicalist among those listed.

  • Epicurus' Prolepsis vs Heraclitus' Flux

    • Martin
    • July 10, 2025 at 5:40 AM

    Response to Bryan's comment #19:

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    "A lot of data has been automatically bent to fit incorrect assumptions."

    No!

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    "Every year there are many good students, potential physicists, who do not accept the current model and therefore have been turned away from the priesthood."

    I did not encounter such students while I studied physics in Cologne. So, the many good is "exaggerated" if not outright wrong. Being able to apply established models to solve simple problems usually assures graduation. You do not have to accept the current model as "true" or adequate to graduate.
    In Germany, more than half of the students who start studying physics give up, mostly because they are just bridging the time until getting accepted for another subject or at another university. The second most common reason is that the mathematics courses in the first year, i.e. just mathematics as a tool set to be mastered without reference to physics, is too difficult for them. I never heard of disagreement with the "current model" as a reason.

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    "Real atoms are too small for machines to detect, and what looks like the bending of space is really just the effect of “oceans” of these invisible atoms and their wakes."

    No! Electrons and photons are adequately described as elementary particles, i.e. "atoms" in Epicurus' sense, and can be detected by our equipment. "Invisible atoms and their wakes" sounds more like Heraclitus' flux than Epicurus' atomism.

  • Epicurus' Prolepsis vs Heraclitus' Flux

    • Martin
    • July 9, 2025 at 1:56 AM

    Epicurus' seems to have conceived the "atoms" (i.e. the elementary particles in today's language) as hard bodies, which has been refuted by modern physics. Therefore, Epicurus' inferences from that hardness are not sound. This concerns in particular the interaction between atoms and the formation of compounds. Nevertheless, modern physics does describe interaction between atoms and the formation of compounds.
    Although the analogy between today's physics and Heraclitus’ flux might appear stronger than between today's physics and Epicurus' hard atoms under that aspect, Heraclitus' flux is useless for meaningful modelling of reality whereas Epicurus' hard atoms can still be used for simplistic starter models to explain some phenomena.

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    • July 2, 2025 at 11:31 AM

    On a similar note, forest cemeteries have become popular in Germany in recent decades. My siblings fed the ashes of our mother to a tree in such a forest cemetery. The urn was buried with those of several others around that tree.

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  • The Definitive "Are Beavers Born With The Innate Disposition To Build Dams, Or Do They Learn It From Older Beavers?" Thread

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    • June 27, 2025 at 4:11 AM
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    would it be reasonable to equate prolepsis with instinct?

    No because there are also acquired variants of prolepsis. In a recent video call, I mentioned reflexes as similar examples for innate prolepses. However, Epicurus used prolepsis as a standard of truth. Both instincts and reflexes are about automatic behavior, and not about truth. Therefore, it might be wrong to call instincts or reflexes prolepses.

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  • ⟐ as the symbol of the philosophy of Epicurus

    • Martin
    • May 22, 2025 at 2:58 AM
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    Which are your favourites? What do y'all think about the idea in general?

    Martin, do you have a suggestion? :)

    I do not have a particular preference for any of the suggestions in this thread so far and have none on my own. Among the shown stable three body systems, this one appears to be optimum between simplicity and complexity and provides multiple aspects for symbolism:

    5_4_800_36_downscaled-Pick1-2.jpg

  • "All Models Are Wrong, But Some Are Useful"

    • Martin
    • May 14, 2025 at 1:55 AM

    Here is an article why the reliance on models/theories in science and the realism-anti-realism dispute in the philosophy of science should not turn us into Sceptics:

    "When is a Fact a Fact?": A Conversation with Peter Vickers

    I found the link at Philosophy Matters on: Facebook

  • ⟐ as the symbol of the philosophy of Epicurus

    • Martin
    • May 12, 2025 at 1:16 PM

    I do not see it, probably because of the larger atom at the top and the different sizes of the "eyes" as mentioned by Julia.

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