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    • July 21, 2021 at 8:22 PM
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    Welcome Macario !

    This is the place for students of Epicurus to coordinate their studies and work together to promote the philosophy of Epicurus. Please remember that all posting here is subject to our Community Standards / Rules of the Forum our Not Neo-Epicurean, But Epicurean and our Posting Policy statements and associated posts.

    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be most assured of your time here being productive is to tell us a little about yourself and personal your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you have which would help us make sure that your questions and thoughts are addressed.

    In that regard we have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    1. "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt
    2. "A Few Days In Athens" by Frances Wright
    3. The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.
    4. "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"
    5. "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky
    6. The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."
    7. Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section
    8. Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section
    9. The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation
    10. A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright
    11. Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus
    12. Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    Hello Cassius and everyone! To tell you a little bit about my studies on Epicurus, I'm pretty much a beginner. I've been studying for a while now the canon and history of ancient western philosophy and I now hold a particularly strong personal interest in Epicurean philosophy, not only for mere knowledge but also for practical application in my personal life. I found out about this forum while reading a book containing the translation of the three letters where the translator cited this forum as a useful source of information. I've been using it since then, for consulting. Now I intend to take my studies on Epicurus to a higher level.
    Thanks for the welcome message!

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    Great to have you Macario and let us know how we can help!

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    . I found out about this forum while reading a book containing the translation of the three letters where the trans

    Do you mind letting us know the name of the book?

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    This was it:
    https://www.amazon.com.br/Epicuro-Cartas…/dp/B082Y555XZ/

    It's basically a translation of the three letters and the principal doctrines based on the english translation by Robert Drew Hicks (which is also presented in the book).

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    • July 22, 2021 at 9:47 PM
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    Thank you! Very interesting! What language is that? I don't recognize the names but I surely appreciate them mentioning us!

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    It's portuguese. The name of the translator (who mentioned the forum) is Lúcio Jakobsmuschel.

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    I'll betray my zero knowledge of Portuguese. That last name presumably indicates Jacob--something. What's a "muschel" in Portugese? ;)

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    • July 22, 2021 at 10:17 PM
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    Actually his last name is not Portuguese, I believe it's German and I have no idea what it means either! ^^

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    • July 22, 2021 at 10:20 PM
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    :) Well then this is a job for Martin

    Regardless, I appreciate him mentioning us!

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    Muschel means seashell! Jakobsmuschel is a kind of clam, scallop in English I believe

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    Yes.

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    Welcome Macario!

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