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    • March 27, 2021 at 7:21 PM
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    Hello and welcome to the forum @ProstheticConscience !

    This is the place for students of Epicurus to coordinate their studies and work together to promote the philosophy of Epicurus. Please remember that all posting here is subject to our Community Standards / Rules of the Forum our Not Neo-Epicurean, But Epicurean and our Posting Policy statements and associated posts.

    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be most assured of your time here being productive is to tell us a little about yourself and personal your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you have which would help us make sure that your questions and thoughts are addressed.

    In that regard we have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    1. "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt
    2. "A Few Days In Athens" by Frances Wright
    3. The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.
    4. "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"
    5. "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky
    6. The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."
    7. Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section
    8. Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section
    9. The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation
    10. A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright
    11. Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus
    12. Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

    Welcome to the forum!


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    Good day.,

    I joined the forum as I have a friend who holds Epicurean views, and I was interested in knowing more. I'm more nihilism/weak anthropic leaning myself, a "there's no meaning outside of what we make for ourselves" viewpoint if you will, and it's chance we're here to see it. However I'm not here to debate these points, but rather to learn of Epicurean philosophical viewpoints.

    Much of it agrees with my core beliefs, so there should be no issues on that account, especially with the rejection of Platonic ideals (I could go on and on about this in particular, especially in regards to engineering!)

    I likely will lurk until I know more, no one enjoys well meaning but ignorant comments, or off topic and specious ones.

    thank you.

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    Welcome!

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    • March 27, 2021 at 9:53 PM
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    Thank you for your frankness! Sounds like you have good judgment and can appreciate where we are coming from.

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    especially with the rejection of Platonic ideals (I could go on and on about this in particular, especially in regards to engineering!)

    I hope you will offer your views on that as you see fit, and that is certainly a topic that we like to explore here.

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    • March 27, 2021 at 9:54 PM
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    Also I should say that the "Welcome -- I think!" was purely a reaction to your creative name choice - no other prejudging implied or intended ;)

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    Welcome @ProstheticConscience!

    “If the joys found in nature are crimes, then man’s pleasure and happiness is to be criminal.”

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    Welcome ProstheticConscience!

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