Only Two Feelings - Pleasure and Pain - The Term Pleasure Includes Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc.

The Term Pleasure Includes Bodily as well as Mental Pleasures Such As Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc. Likewise The Term Pain Includes All Bodily and Mental Pains.

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2. Key Citations - Only Two Feelings: Pleasure And Pain
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2. Confusion: "The feelings are only two" 49
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2. The “Absence of Pain” Problem 11
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2. Maslow's hierarchy of needs 11
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2. Choice & Avoidance: towards a better translation for avoidance 38
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2. Article on the Science of Guilty Pleasures 3
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2. A Food Analogy That May Be Useful In Thinking About Stimulative vs Non-Stimulative Pleasures 7
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2. Positive Emotions and Happiness
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4. Kalosyni
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2. Is gratitude a katastematic or kinetic pleasure? 69
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2. Competing Greek Words for Pleasure in the Epicurean Corpus? 12
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4. Pacatus
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2. Article: Does Neutral Affect Exist?
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2. Comparing "Pleasure = Absence of Pain" to "Body = Absence of Void;" A Cite to Lucretius 1:503 6
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2. Modern Neuroscience And The Katastematic / Kinetic Debate 61
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4. Don
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2. Latest video from Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett - "How Emotions Work" 1
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2. Pleasures of the Mind In Comparison To Pleasures of the Body 3
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4. Don
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2. Confidence in Katastematic Pleasure 47
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4. Don
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2. Do Pigs Value Katastematic Pleasure? ( Summer 2022 K / K Discussion) 167
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2. The Sweeping Nature Of The Word "Pleasure" 3
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2. Another Article Insisting On The Importance of the Kinetic / Katestematic Distinction, Despite Citing Nikolsky 16
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2. On The Need To "Fulfill Your Nature" By Pursuing Your Natural Dispositions 2
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2. CNN Article on Reclaiming Sexual Pleasure
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2. Archival Preservation of Antique Books 1
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2. Emotional states from an epicurean pov 8
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2. What A Mess This K / K Issue Is - Here is Someone Saying These are "The Most Dominant Terms In Epicurus' Theory of Pleasures" 7
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2. Epicurean Attitudes Toward Emotion 19
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2. Dialogue on Katastematic Pleasure 38
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Choice & Avoidance: towards a better translation for avoidance 38

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A Food Analogy That May Be Useful In Thinking About Stimulative vs Non-Stimulative Pleasures 7

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Modern Neuroscience And The Katastematic / Kinetic Debate 61

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Pleasures of the Mind In Comparison To Pleasures of the Body 3

Confidence in Katastematic Pleasure 47

Do Pigs Value Katastematic Pleasure? ( Summer 2022 K / K Discussion) 167

The Sweeping Nature Of The Word "Pleasure" 3

Applying K/K Theory to Practical Life Issues 1

Another Article Insisting On The Importance of the Kinetic / Katestematic Distinction, Despite Citing Nikolsky 16

On The Need To "Fulfill Your Nature" By Pursuing Your Natural Dispositions 2

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Epicurean Attitudes Toward Emotion 19

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