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  • Immutability of Epicurean school in ancient times

    • TauPhi
    • July 28, 2025 at 8:44 PM
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    I came across this observation from Numenius of Apamea who wrote the passage some 500 years after Epicurus and I thought it may be interesting topic for us to discuss. Epicurean school in antiquity was uniquely resistant to any change or innovation. When other schools went through distinct periods in their development - Middle Platonism, Neoplatonism, Early Stoa, Middle Stoa, 1st Academy, 2nd Academy, umpteen academy etc. - Epicureanism had never developed. No new ideas were introduced, nothing was really questioned or corrected, there were around 10 scholars in succession that we know of who run the school and yet no-one really deviated or influenced in any significant way the teachings of the school.

    So what do you think? Why was Epicurean school like a tardigrade in a state of cryptobiosis? Was the school's stagnation a feature or a bug?

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  • Edward Abbey - My Favorite Quotes

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    Edward Abbey was an iconoclast, a contrarian, a gadfly, and a radical. He was a desert ranger, a poet, a novelist, a student of philosophy, and a keen observer of nature and human life. He was an aesthetic, a sensualist, an atheist, a materialist, and in general terms an antagonist. A provocateur.

    In a list of his favorite poets, he names first Anacreon and then Lucretius . He is, after Thoreau, my second favorite essayist.

    Here are a few of my favorite quotes:

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    My loyalties will not be bound by national borders, or confined in time by one nation's history, or limited in the spiritual dimension by one language and culture. I pledge my allegiance to the damned human race, and my everlasting love to the green hills of Earth, and my intimations of glory to the singing stars, to the very end of space and time. from his journal; (cf. Diogenes of Oenoanda)

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  • A Question About Hobbes From Facebook

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    Over on Facebook someone posted this. There are certainly people here who are much more familiar with Hobbes than am I. Anyone want to propose some comments in answer:

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    In Leviathan, Thomas Hobbes seems to follow a materialistic philosophy that aligns with Epicurean thought. Since he was writing in a Christian context, he couldn’t be completely open about it, often couching his materialism in scriptural language. His reduction of spirit to matter and denial of incorporeal entities was viewed by his contemporaries as dangerously close to atheism. Would you say Hobbes’ philosophy is in harmony with Epicurean philosophy?”

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  • Grumphism? LOL

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    • August 16, 2025 at 3:17 PM
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    Dictionaries of the Scots Language :: Grumphie
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    A wee grumphie in the heird o Epicurus!

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  • New Translation of Epicurus' Works

    • Eikadistes
    • June 16, 2025 at 3:50 PM
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    Greetings, friends!

    I'm just noting for my own, future reference locations at which I have uploaded a translation:

    Academia
    On EpicureanFriends
    Society of Friends of Epicurus

    I'll make primary updates on twentiers.com/biography, but I've uploaded static copies elsewhere.

    Nothing new lately. I hope everyone is well. <3

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  • Epicurean Emporium

    • Eikadistes
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    Greetings, all!

    I'm centralizing some of the Epicurean art, merchandise, and related paraphernalia I've created in the Epicurean Emporium. My wife was previously hosting some of the material – including her historical portraits and digital illustrations – on Etsy and RedBubble, but we've made some changes, so it is now available through https://twentiers-shop.fourthwall.com/.

    I'm still uploading things and organizing the navigation. It's a big bucket of products right now, but I'm working it out.

    I'm also hosting a digital copy of The Hedonicon through the site. As I posted elsewhere, I jumped off of Musk and Zuckerberg's platforms, and I'd like to move away from Bezos' as much as possible, too, so I've ported e-book to this site. It's better, anyway. Amazon only pays the author/editor pennies for a cheap e-book or kindle file, and this site isn't quite as hungry. :thumbup:

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  • 'Philosophos' web site - philosophical connections

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    PhiloSophos: Philosophical Connections by Dr Anthony Harrison-Barbet

    A great resource for anyone interested in Western Philosophy. It contains interlinked profiles of 126 philosophers with 'connections' at the end of each profile. And these connections are the real gems of this web site. They show philosophers' influences, which ideas they shared, which ideas they opposed and which ideas they modified. It's a very clear way to see the development and interconnectedness of Western philosophy.

    Please read 'How to use the profiles' section first to understand the whole concept and its execution.

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  • Daily life of ancient Epicureans / 21st Century Epicureans

    • Robert
    • May 21, 2025 at 8:23 PM
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    First of all, hello (again)! I joined more than a year ago but have been fairly quiet since.

    Eikas got me wondering whether there were other practices, observances, or rituals that ancient Epicureans followed, perhaps on a daily basis. If so, what might these have been? What might the typical day of an Epicurean in 3rd-century Athens (or 1st-century Herculaneum) have been like, and how would they have incorporated Epicureanism into it?

    As 21st-century Epicureans, how do you integrate it into your daily life? Is there any particular structure or set of practices involved?

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  • Brain-storming Ideas for Future Study Groups

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    Admin Edit: We have now added a new weekly meeting on Sunday afternoons 12:30 ET. For more info go here.

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    This thread is for discussing the potential of adding a regular Zoom for those who want an introductory level approach.

    Our current meetings are as follows:

    • Our First Monday session is a once per month meet and greet targeted at new participants.
    • Our Wednesday night EST meeting have been devoted to status updates on recent threads on the forum and going through the fragments in Bryan's work on Usener's Epicurea.

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    The thought is that we need a regular series for those who mainly want to get "introduced" to the basics of the philosophy

    We've done several series in

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  • Words of wisdom from Scottish comedian Billy Connolly

    • Don
    • May 25, 2025 at 8:33 AM
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    I couldn't find the exact source of this quote, so this may be more paraphrase than quote. There's also this article from 2019:

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17949861.billy-connolly-scottish-story/

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    The Scots and the Irish – Connolly is of Irish stock as his surname tells you – have a deep cultural quirk of respecting death, but never taking it too seriously. Connolly will be keeping up that tradition. He’s told his wife Pamela Stephenson that when he dies he wants an epitaph in tiny writing so visitors will have to step close to his gravestone to read it. When they can finally see it, they’ll discover it says: “You’re standing on my b***s”.

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