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    This is intriguing. The article states that consciousness arises from bodily sensations, not just from the brain. It's a very Epicurean idea, such that he states death is nothing to us as we will be without sensations and consciousness is extinguished.

    It's a problem for AI development of sentience as, at least so far, they have no bodies. It happens they do I might have Alexa crawling around on the floor as I dreamed she was doing one night. I don't know if I like the idea! :D

    Consciousness Starts in the Body, Not the Brain: New Neuroscience Study Changes Everything We Knew

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    Quote from kochiekoch

    This is intriguing. The article states that consciousness arises from bodily sensations, not just from the brain. It's a very Epicurean idea, such that he states death is nothing to us as we will be without sensations and consciousness is extinguished.

    kochiekoch

    Here’s a direct link to the article.

    Consciousness Starts in the Body, Not the Brain: New Neuroscience Study Changes Everything We Knew
    Scientists may have just turned our understanding of consciousness on its head. A major new study suggests your thoughts and feelings might not come from where…
    dailygalaxy.com

    That is a very interesting article and research study into how our consciousness arises from interoception - our body's internal sensing system. I find that much of the research outcomes support several Epicurean principles. The research suggests that our lived experience emerges from the body's signals rather than being purely brain-generated. This appears to describe some aspects of Epicurean prolepsis (precognition).


    Also, I find parallels in how this understanding of consciousness aligns with Christos #Yapijakis's interpretation of Epicurean biological determinism. For example, Yapijakis explains that Epicurus viewed consciousness and mental states as emerging from purely physical processes. In his 2018 paper "Ethical Teachings of Epicurus Based on Human Nature," he details how Epicureans understood that:
    - Our sense perceptions are based on an atomic nature
    - Mental processes arise from specific atomic arrangements in the body
    - Consciousness emerges from interactions between physical components
    - Psychological states have biological foundations
    - Human behavior follows natural, deterministic patterns


    I think this article may be another example of modern science providing the evidence for what Epicurus studied and rationally expected. Does this help to expand on your original post?


    I have no comments on the AI aspects mentioned in the article.

    Patrikios

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