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    Welcome Singleton !

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    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

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    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

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    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    Hello, nice to be here!

    I've actually lurked on the old website quite a bit, and only now got around to joining the group. I take the "live unknown" advice very seriously, and more and more so as I get older, but after finally deleting all my social media accounts this year after many years of procrastinating, I felt the need to still be a part of a like-minded community, and so here I am!

    I arrived at Epicureanism by way of Stoicism. Working in a university library, I was shelving books and came across one called (I think) A Guide to the Good Life -- which is not a bad book at all, really. Being an atheist since childhood and having flirted with, then abandoned, Buddhism, I found this ancient Greek philosophy to be a breath of fresh air, and began digging into it. But having been subjected to Catholic education and 4 years in the army, I found Stoicism's emphasis on duty, virtue, and blindly accepting your lot in life to be too much for me -- I had had enough of that stuff. At some point in my readings, I stumbled upon Epicurus, and realized I had found something that struck a chord in me. That was about 20 years ago, and I haven't found anything else that speaks to me in the same way.

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    Welcome Singleton! Glad to have you with us after a familiar path!

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    Welcome aboard, Singleton ! Thanks for sharing your path here.

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    I arrived at Epicureanism by way of Stoicism.

    You'll find that a common thread for many of us.

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    having flirted with, then abandoned, Buddhism, I found this ancient Greek philosophy to be a breath of fresh air

    Ditto on the Buddhism.

    The almost modern perspective of Epicurus definitely made me take notice. Now, I'll have been a member of this forum (I always feel I should say agora since Epicurus was Greek ) five years now next month. It is a welcoming place. Enjoy the stay!

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    Welcome Singleton!

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    Welcome, glad to have you involved!

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    Me, too! :thumbup: 'Tis the season!

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