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    Welcome GnothiSeauton !

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

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    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be most assured of your time here being productive is to tell us a little about yourself and your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you have which would help us make sure that your questions and thoughts are addressed.

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    We have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read. Feel free to join in on one or more of our conversation threads under various topics found throughout the forum, where you can to ask questions or to add in any of your insights as you study the Epicurean philosophy.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    Cool name. Welcome!


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    Hello Fellow Iconoclastic Thinkers (the name of our monthly philosophy group established about a year ago). Feeling a deep hole in my heart for lack of a proper education in philosophy (I graduated from the University of California WITHOUT taking a philosophy course), I established our little philosophy group to help me and others fill the need for a truly comprehensive understanding of the world. I learned of Epicurus only recently after one of our sessions. I am especially impressed how Epicurus fills the voids left by the Stoics. I'm looking forward to the adventure here.

    Edit: I just ordered a hardback copy of Dewitt's “Epicurus and His Philosophy” from Abe Books, the online used book store. Excited to read it as I have several other books I'm currently reading on Epicurus. I found this forum during a web search.

    Edited 2 times, last by GnothiSeauton (December 4, 2024 at 4:12 AM).

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    Welcome GnothiSeauton!

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    Welcome aboard!

    Quote from GnothiSeauton

    Edit: I just ordered a hardback copy of Dewitt's “Epicurus and His Philosophy” from Abe Books, the online used book store. Excited to read it as I have several other books I'm currently reading on Epicurus. I found this forum during a web search.

    My personal go-to book recommendation these days is Dr. Emily Austin's Living for Pleasure. It is a very conversational, accessible introduction to the philosophy and applying it in one's life. We also did podcast interviews with her. Speaking of the Stoics, she wrote an article on that very topic:

    Are the Modern Stoics Really Epicureans?
    The Modern Stoicism movement has embraced the classical philosophy, often as part of project of disciplining emotion with rationality. Perhaps adherents should…
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    Oh, and I'm assuming you've seen this. For those who haven't:

    Memento Mori mosaic from excavations in the convent of San Gregorio, Via Appia, Rome, Italy. Now in the National Museum Bath of Diocletian, Rome, Italy. The Greek motto gnōthi sauton (know thyself, nosce te ipsum) (c. 1st century, Wikimedia Commons)

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    Welcome GnothiSeauton!

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    Welcome to the forum GnothiSeauton !

    Here are some things you might want to check out if you haven't already:

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    Welcome!

    "We must try to make the end of the journey better than the beginning, as long as we are journeying; but when we come to the end, we must be happy and content." (Vatican Saying 48)

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    Thanks everyone for the welcoming notes. What a supportive place here. Don, I'll definitely check out Austin's Living for Pleasure. Yes, love that mosaic! And thanks for the reading/viewing suggestions, Kalosyni.

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