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2. New Book by Erler (Würzburg Center): "Epicurus: An Introduction to His Practical Ethics and Politics" 2
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2. Regarding categories | Will to Power: a natural or un-natural desire? 7
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2. Things that happen after we die 7
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2. As to the Term "Hedonic Calculus" or the "Calculus of Advantage" 22
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2. Identifying And Dealing With Significant Error / Mistakes in Ourselves (and Others)
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2. “How Epicurean Science Saves Humanity” 3
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2. We Need A Game Show With A Lightning Round Question: "Happiness or Pleasure? - Why?" 28
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2. Imagery On The Interplay Between "Pursue Pleasure" and 'Avoid Pain" 33
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2. How would you respond to an existentialist who says "You Epicureans have chosen pleasure as your meaning but it's not universal" do Epicureans hold that pleasure is the universal Good? 13
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2. A Pleasant Life instead of Pleasure 7
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2. If Death Is Nothing To Us, Then Life Is Everything to Us 29
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2. Wikipedia on "Pleasure"
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2. Mental pleasure/pain more intense and longer lasting than physical pleasure/pain 33
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2. Given The Stress That Many Greek Philosophers' Placed On "Virtue" or a perfect view of "The Good" As The Ultimate Goal, To What Extent Would An Epicurus Have Considered That Approach An "Unnatural and Unnecessary Desire?" 4
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2. Explaining In Summary Form How A Man In Extreme Pain Can Be Said To Be "Happy" 22
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2. Questions re Pleasure 2
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2. "Peace and Safety" vs. "Conflict and Danger" 7
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2. The Argument That the Good Of Animals is Not the Same As The Good of Human Beings
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2. A General Thought About The Future Of Epicurean Philosophy - On The Meaning of "Pleasure" 2
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2. You Only Live Once
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2. Are You Epicurean Or Hieronymian? 26
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2. Is pleasure as the natural goal of life falsifiable? 30
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2. Pleasure vs pain - example and thoughts! 10
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2. Tips On Offsetting Pleasures Against Pains 24
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2. Fundamental Issues In Hedonism 15
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2. Valueless Virtue in Modern Stoicism 16
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2. Natural versus Unnatural 12
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2. Wanting vs Liking
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2. Pleasure, Desire and Limits 36
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2. Perspectives On "Proving" That Pleasure is "The Good" 205
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2. New Translation of Epicurus' Works 1
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2. Superstition and Friday the 13th 6
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2. Epicurean Emporium 9
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2. The Religion of Nature - as supported by Lucretius' De Rerum Natura 2
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New Book by Erler (Würzburg Center): "Epicurus: An Introduction to His Practical Ethics and Politics" 2

Regarding categories | Will to Power: a natural or un-natural desire? 7

Things that happen after we die 7

As to the Term "Hedonic Calculus" or the "Calculus of Advantage" 22

“How Epicurean Science Saves Humanity” 3

We Need A Game Show With A Lightning Round Question: "Happiness or Pleasure? - Why?" 28

Imagery On The Interplay Between "Pursue Pleasure" and 'Avoid Pain" 33

How would you respond to an existentialist who says "You Epicureans have chosen pleasure as your meaning but it's not universal" do Epicureans hold that pleasure is the universal Good? 13

A Pleasant Life instead of Pleasure 7

If Death Is Nothing To Us, Then Life Is Everything to Us 29

Mental pleasure/pain more intense and longer lasting than physical pleasure/pain 33

Given The Stress That Many Greek Philosophers' Placed On "Virtue" or a perfect view of "The Good" As The Ultimate Goal, To What Extent Would An Epicurus Have Considered That Approach An "Unnatural and Unnecessary Desire?" 4

Explaining In Summary Form How A Man In Extreme Pain Can Be Said To Be "Happy" 22

Questions re Pleasure 2

"Peace and Safety" vs. "Conflict and Danger" 7

A General Thought About The Future Of Epicurean Philosophy - On The Meaning of "Pleasure" 2

Are You Epicurean Or Hieronymian? 26

Is pleasure as the natural goal of life falsifiable? 30

Pleasure vs pain - example and thoughts! 10

Tips On Offsetting Pleasures Against Pains 24

Fundamental Issues In Hedonism 15

Valueless Virtue in Modern Stoicism 16

Natural versus Unnatural 12

Pleasure, Desire and Limits 36

Perspectives On "Proving" That Pleasure is "The Good" 205

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