Epicurus - The "Vatican List" of Sayings

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** If your question or comment relates to a particular saying, click the appropriate saying in the numbered chart below, and you will see the existing threads for that saying.
** If you start a new thread on a particular saying, please entitle it "VSXX - Topic," and use the appropriate VSXX Tag so that your thread can be found in the future.
** For a full list of all Vatican Sayings click here.

** The Vatican List Of Sayings Of Epicurus **

VS01	\|	VS02	\|	VS03	\|	VS04	\|	VS05
VS06	\|	VS07	\|	VS08	\|	VS09	\|	VS10
VS11	\|	VS12	\|	VS13	\|	VS14	\|	VS15
VS16	\|	VS17	\|	VS18	\|	VS19	\|	VS20
VS21	\|	VS22	\|	VS23	\|	VS24	\|	VS25
VS26	\|	VS27	\|	VS28	\|	VS29	\|	VS30
VS31	\|	VS32	\|	VS33	\|	VS34	\|	VS35
VS36	\|	VS37	\|	VS38	\|	VS39	\|	VS40
VS41	\|	VS42	\|	VS43	\|	VS44	\|	VS45
VS46	\|	VS47	\|	VS48	\|	VS49	\|	VS50
VS51	\|	VS52	\|	VS53	\|	VS54	\|	VS55
VS56	\|	VS57	\|	VS58	\|	VS59	\|	VS60
VS61	\|	VS62	\|	VS63	\|	VS64	\|	VS65
VS66	\|	VS67	\|	VS68	\|	VS69	\|	VS70
VS71	\|	VS72	\|	VS73	\|	VS74	\|	VS75
VS76	\|	VS77	\|	VS78	\|	VS79	\|	VS80
VS81	\|		\|		\|		\|

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General Aspects Applicable To All "Vatican Sayings"

Threads: 2

Posts: 7

Last Posts: Pictures of "The Vatican Sayings" As Discovered in The Vatican

Bryan July 11, 2023 at 6:06 PM

Vatican Sayings – Brief Study Guide

Hiram November 25, 2018 at 1:05 PM

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2. VS63 - "Frugality Too Has A Limit..." 36
  - Cassius
  - January 28, 2023 at 9:36 AM
  - Cassius
  - February 2, 2023 at 8:09 AM
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4. Don
  February 2, 2023 at 8:09 AM
2. VS11 - VS11 and Kinetic / Katastematic Pleasure 13
  - Hiram
  - February 5, 2020 at 9:59 AM
  - Hiram
  - February 6, 2020 at 9:34 AM
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  13
  
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  13
4. Cassius
  February 6, 2020 at 9:34 AM
2. VS11 - Translation and Commentary: VS 11 8
  - 3
  - Don
  - March 12, 2020 at 12:28 AM
  - Don
  - August 14, 2023 at 7:42 PM
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  8
  
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4. Kalosyni
  August 14, 2023 at 7:42 PM
2. VS47 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 and elsewhere 18
  - 1
  - Don
  - May 23, 2024 at 6:46 AM
  - Don
  - May 25, 2024 at 7:51 PM
3. Replies
  
  18
  
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  18
4. Don
  May 25, 2024 at 7:51 PM
2. VS78 - Alternative Translation 17
  - 3
  - Onenski
  - July 4, 2023 at 12:29 AM
  - Onenski
  - April 10, 2025 at 5:56 PM
3. Replies
  
  17
  
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  17
4. Don
  April 10, 2025 at 5:56 PM
2. VS41 - Thoughts on and translations of VS41 12
  - 2
  - Don
  - July 5, 2023 at 7:17 AM
  - Don
  - November 2, 2023 at 7:53 PM
3. Replies
  
  12
  
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  5.7k
  
  12
4. Pacatus
  November 2, 2023 at 7:53 PM
2. VS42 - Versions of Vatican Saying 42 21
  - 1
  - Onenski
  - November 8, 2023 at 7:52 PM
  - Onenski
  - November 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM
3. Replies
  
  21
  
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  5.6k
  
  21
4. Don
  November 17, 2023 at 7:04 AM
2. VS66 - Problems With Bailey's Vatican 66 4
  - 1
  - Cassius
  - January 25, 2018 at 6:42 AM
  - Cassius
  - February 8, 2024 at 4:17 AM
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  4
  
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  4.9k
  
  4
4. DavidN
  February 8, 2024 at 4:17 AM
2. VS26 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 with some commentary 10
  - 1
  - Don
  - October 24, 2023 at 11:28 PM
  - Don
  - October 25, 2023 at 11:22 AM
3. Replies
  
  10
  
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  4.5k
  
  10
4. Joshua
  October 25, 2023 at 11:22 AM
2. VS35 - Bailey's Strange and Probably Misleading Translation of VS 35 3
  - Cassius
  - January 23, 2018 at 5:58 AM
  - Cassius
  - June 29, 2021 at 9:09 AM
3. Replies
  
  3
  
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  4.3k
  
  3
4. Don
  June 29, 2021 at 9:09 AM
2. VS41 - Translations of VS 41 3
  - 1
  - Martin
  - May 21, 2018 at 7:15 AM
  - Martin
  - May 21, 2018 at 9:02 AM
3. Replies
  
  3
  
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  3.9k
  
  3
4. Cassius
  May 21, 2018 at 9:02 AM
2. VS11 - Source of VS11 in manuscript 14
  - 1
  - Don
  - July 7, 2023 at 4:24 PM
  - Don
  - July 7, 2023 at 6:24 PM
3. Replies
  
  14
  
  Views
  
  3.8k
  
  14
4. Cassius
  July 7, 2023 at 6:24 PM
2. VS21 - A Meme from Elli 1
  - Cassius
  - November 24, 2017 at 6:47 AM
  - Cassius
  - November 24, 2017 at 6:47 AM
3. Replies
  
  1
  
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  3.5k
  
  1
4. Cassius
  November 24, 2017 at 6:47 AM
2. VS14 - My Take on VS14 8
  - 1
  - Cassius
  - October 3, 2018 at 9:41 PM
  - Cassius
  - May 27, 2024 at 1:41 PM
3. Replies
  
  8
  
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  3.5k
  
  8
4. Don
  May 27, 2024 at 1:41 PM
2. VS14 - "Occupied" vs. "Without Allowing Himself Leisure." 2
  - Cassius
  - September 9, 2019 at 9:29 AM
  - Cassius
  - August 14, 2023 at 7:27 PM
3. Replies
  
  2
  
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  3.4k
  
  2
4. Kalosyni
  August 14, 2023 at 7:27 PM
2. VS27 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 with some commentary 4
  - 1
  - Don
  - October 24, 2023 at 11:57 PM
  - Don
  - October 31, 2023 at 11:43 PM
3. Replies
  
  4
  
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  3.4k
  
  4
4. Don
  October 31, 2023 at 11:43 PM
2. VS52 - Happiness or Blessedness? 7
  - Kalosyni
  - May 6, 2023 at 10:05 AM
  - Kalosyni
  - May 6, 2023 at 4:56 PM
3. Replies
  
  7
  
  Views
  
  2.9k
  
  7
4. Don
  May 6, 2023 at 4:56 PM
2. VS26 - Long and Short Argument Reference in Cicero's On Ends
  - Cassius
  - September 24, 2016 at 3:25 PM
  - Cassius
  - September 24, 2016 at 3:25 PM
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  0
  
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  2.9k
2. VS41 - "Other faculties" 5
  - Cassius
  - July 30, 2021 at 3:05 AM
  - Cassius
  - July 30, 2021 at 9:07 AM
3. Replies
  
  5
  
  Views
  
  2.7k
  
  5
4. Don
  July 30, 2021 at 9:07 AM
2. VS29 - Interpreting VS29 7
  - Kalosyni
  - September 14, 2023 at 7:46 PM
  - Kalosyni
  - September 17, 2023 at 4:39 PM
3. Replies
  
  7
  
  Views
  
  2.7k
  
  7
4. kochiekoch
  September 17, 2023 at 4:39 PM
2. VS14 - What Are the Probabilities That "We are born once and cannot be born twice...." Influenced the Development of Another Famous Saying?
  - 1
  - Cassius
  - June 21, 2024 at 9:18 AM
  - Cassius
  - June 21, 2024 at 9:18 AM
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  0
  
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  2.6k
2. VS21 - Source of VS21 in Vat.gr1950
  - 1
  - Don
  - July 14, 2023 at 11:33 PM
  - Don
  - July 14, 2023 at 11:33 PM
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  0
  
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  2.5k
2. VS23 - Epicurus Reader Version 1
  - Cassius
  - November 2, 2019 at 3:02 AM
  - Cassius
  - November 2, 2019 at 3:05 AM
3. Replies
  
  1
  
  Views
  
  2.5k
  
  1
4. Cassius
  November 2, 2019 at 3:05 AM
2. VS23 - Comparison with Aristotle's Views On Friendship
  - 1
  - Cassius
  - August 23, 2023 at 8:55 PM
  - Cassius
  - August 23, 2023 at 8:55 PM
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  0
  
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  2.5k
2. VS15 - Alternate translation of VS15 / Thoughts on respect / Article
  - Kalosyni
  - August 24, 2023 at 9:36 AM
  - Kalosyni
  - August 24, 2023 at 9:36 AM
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  0
  
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  2.4k
2. VS27 - Does all fruit come "painfully"? 1
  - 1
  - Cassius
  - May 31, 2019 at 7:33 PM
  - Cassius
  - May 31, 2019 at 7:34 PM
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  1
  
  Views
  
  2.4k
  
  1
4. Cassius
  May 31, 2019 at 7:34 PM
2. VS33 - Source in Vat.gr.1950
  - 1
  - Don
  - October 23, 2023 at 1:55 PM
  - Don
  - October 23, 2023 at 1:55 PM
3. Replies
  
  0
  
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  2.4k
2. VS35 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 with some commentary
  - 1
  - Don
  - October 23, 2023 at 2:18 PM
  - Don
  - October 23, 2023 at 2:18 PM
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  0
  
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  2.4k
2. VS13 - Source of VS13 (PD27) in Vat.gr.1950 manuscript 6
  - 1
  - Don
  - July 7, 2023 at 10:33 PM
  - Don
  - July 12, 2023 at 1:45 AM
3. Replies
  
  6
  
  Views
  
  2.3k
  
  6
4. Onenski
  July 12, 2023 at 1:45 AM
2. VS14 - Elli's Meme 1
  - Cassius
  - September 25, 2018 at 1:15 PM
  - Cassius
  - October 2, 2018 at 8:58 AM
3. Replies
  
  1
  
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  2.2k
  
  1
4. Elli
  October 2, 2018 at 8:58 AM

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VS11 - VS11 and Kinetic / Katastematic Pleasure 13

VS11 - Translation and Commentary: VS 11 8

VS47 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 and elsewhere 18

VS78 - Alternative Translation 17

VS41 - Thoughts on and translations of VS41 12

VS42 - Versions of Vatican Saying 42 21

VS66 - Problems With Bailey's Vatican 66 4

VS26 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 with some commentary 10

VS35 - Bailey's Strange and Probably Misleading Translation of VS 35 3

VS41 - Translations of VS 41 3

VS11 - Source of VS11 in manuscript 14

VS21 - A Meme from Elli 1

VS14 - My Take on VS14 8

VS14 - "Occupied" vs. "Without Allowing Himself Leisure." 2

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VS52 - Happiness or Blessedness? 7

VS41 - "Other faculties" 5

VS29 - Interpreting VS29 7

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