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Aristarchus calculation of the "size" of the sun

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    • December 7, 2025 at 7:07 PM
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    This is an interesting video:

    Aristarchus of Samos proposed a heliocentric model, but this idea did not find wide acceptance among ancient philosophers, due to a lack of observable stellar parallax.

  • Kalosyni December 7, 2025 at 7:15 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Aristarchus calculation of the size of the sun” to “Aristarchus calculation of the "size" of the sun”.
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    • April 21, 2026 at 8:26 AM
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    The full video may explain this but if someone doesn't want to watch that Wikipedia says that Aristarchus' calculations led him to conclude that the sun was 18-20 times larger than the moon. It's not clear to me whether he had a size for the moon or whether he stopped at the relative size.

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    Aristarchus also reasoned that as the angular size of the Sun and the Moon were the same, but the distance to the Sun was between 18 and 20 times further than the Moon, the Sun must therefore be 18–20 times larger.

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    • April 21, 2026 at 11:31 AM
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    Question for math friends:

    1. Given any, one planet in the observable universe, what are the chances that this planet has both (1) exactly one moon, which is also (2) the exact same apparent size as that planet's parent star?

    Another question along those lines:

    2. Under what conditions could ancient humans have measured the sun without the moon?

    I'm ultimately getting to this thought experiment:

    3. If you're a humanoid alien on an Andromedan planet with no moon, once a sage from your species apprehends the relationships between local triangles, what observations need to be made (or what technologies need to be invented) to allow the them to make accurate, celestial measurements?

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    • April 21, 2026 at 1:58 PM
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    I'm more familiar with measurements of the earth from my days in Land Surveying, and the classic experiments that I can recall are these;

    • The Eratosthenes experiment; a fairly accurate measurement of the circumference of the earth.
    • The Mason-Dixon Survey, which demonstrated that mountains exert gravitational pull
    • The Schiehallion survey, which first calculated the mass of the earth
    • The Cavendish experiment, which much more accurately measured the mass of the earth
    • The Transits of Venus across the sun, which used this earlier knowledge to measure the Astronomical unit.

    What you need is an accurate measurement of the planet you're standing on, so that you can observe celestial phenomena from many different known positions on that planet at the same time and collate the data.

    I'm at lunch now, I don't have time for a more complete answer.

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