Regularly Checking In On A Small Screen Device? Bookmark THIS page!
Sunday Weekly Zoom. This and every upcoming Sunday at 12:30 PM EDT we will continue our new series of Zoom meetings targeted for a time when more of our participants worldwide can attend. This week's discussion topic: "The Letter of Cosma Raimondi". To find out how to attend CLICK HERE. To read more on the discussion topic CLICK HERE.
Recent Activities
-
Kalosyni
June 14, 2025 at 1:14 PM Replied to the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.Post[…]
Below are some points from the second half of the AI response (which was in my original post above) ...which I have shortened/reworded:
--Individuals can pick up superstitious beliefs by being taught directly by parents, or by observation or imitation… -
DaveT
June 14, 2025 at 11:59 AM Replied to the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.Post[…]
Thanks. That was a fun read. -
Kalosyni
June 14, 2025 at 11:23 AM Replied to the thread Best Translaton Of PDO1 To Feature At EpicureanFriends?.PostAnd PD01 seems to force one to use inductive reasoning, don't you think? -
Kalosyni
June 14, 2025 at 11:17 AM Replied to the thread Best Translaton Of PDO1 To Feature At EpicureanFriends?.PostA recent post regarding the Tetrapharmakos in the thread "Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances", opened up a question for me regarding PD01 ...and which it seems we can have 3 positions:
1) it is speaking about the nature of gods
2) it is speaking about the… -
Don
June 14, 2025 at 11:07 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post[…]
This is very helpful, Bryan !
So, if I'm understanding the excerpt you cited:
τὰ τέτταρα literally means The Four Things (and only four things)
τὰ κυριώτατα literally means The Principal Things (as in a collection of things)
The word for "doctrines,… -
DaveT
June 14, 2025 at 10:48 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post[…] -
Kalosyni
June 14, 2025 at 8:39 AM Posted the thread June 20, 2025 - Twentieth Gathering Via Zoom - Agenda.Thread
Coming up next week on Friday is our next monthly 20th gathering!
For Level 03 and above -- we will send out the link (and reminder) a day before. If you are Level 03 and have not yet attended, let us know if you are interested and we will add you to… -
Bryan
June 14, 2025 at 12:58 AM Replied to the thread Epicurean Emporium.PostI am enjoying the notebook! -
Bryan
June 14, 2025 at 12:51 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post[…]
[…]
Yes, here is Tsouna on that section:
"The expression τὰ τέτταρα refers to the Fourfold Remedy. We suggest that it should be distinguished from τὰ κυριώτατα (1. 8). τὰ τέτταρα are precisely four principles originally expressed by Epicurus and later… -
ranc1
June 13, 2025 at 5:51 PM Reacted withLike (Entry)to the Entry All Sensations Are True on the lexicon.
-
Cassius
June 13, 2025 at 2:51 PM Posted the thread Episode 286 - Not Yet Recorded.ThreadWelcome to Episode 286 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.
Each week we walk you through the… -
Cassius
June 13, 2025 at 2:22 PM Replied to the thread Episode 285 - The Significance Of The Limits Of Pain.PostThe citation from Lucretius mentioned in this episode:1-102
But still I fear your caution will dispute the maxims I lay down, who all your life have trembled at the poets' frightful tales. Alas! I could even now invent such dreams as would pervert the… -
sanantoniogarden
June 13, 2025 at 1:51 PM Replied to the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.Post -
Cassius
June 13, 2025 at 12:32 PM Replied to the thread Episode 285 - The Significance Of The Limits Of Pain.Post -
Kalosyni
June 13, 2025 at 12:23 PM Replied to the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.Post -
TauPhi
June 13, 2025 at 10:53 AM Replied to the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.Post[…]
Ah, nothing beats AI generated slop.
'Does generation Z worry about Friday the 13th?.
AI answer: 'Some people may be potentially superstitious and some may not be potentially superstitious. Some sources suggest that some people in the past were more… -
Kalosyni
June 13, 2025 at 8:46 AM Posted the thread Superstition and Friday the 13th.ThreadI just found this result on Google:
Plus I found this interesting podcast with transcript:
"Speaking of Psychology: The psychology of superstition, with Stuart Vyse, PhD"
https://www.apa.org/news/podcasts/…gy/superstition -
Kalosyni
June 13, 2025 at 7:46 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post[…]
The first four Principal Doctrines ??
PD01. The blessed and incorruptible nature knows no trouble itself, nor causes trouble to any other, so that it is never constrained by anger or favor. For all such things exist only in the weak. [1]
PD02. Death is… -
Don
June 12, 2025 at 7:47 PM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post[…]
The Tetrapharmakos? -
DaveT
June 12, 2025 at 3:23 PM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.PostBryan Thanks for sharing. However, I'm not clear about his reference to the four cardinal principals and what they specifically are. "it is also obvious that, aside from those misadventures, they are totally worthless people. This is said because of… -
Kalosyni
June 12, 2025 at 1:16 PM Replied to the thread The Religion of Nature - as supported by Lucretius' De Rerum Natura.Post[…]
In this opening passage, it seems that Venus is above Nature, but could we also see it as Venus is the personification of Nature?
Also we see the phrase "which now I sing of Nature" - which casts Nature as something to celebrate and extol - and this… -
Kalosyni
June 12, 2025 at 12:03 PM Posted the thread The Religion of Nature - as supported by Lucretius' De Rerum Natura.ThreadThis thread is to consider whether or not Nature could be the main focus of "religion" or "spirituality" for Epicureans.
I will add here some references from De Rerum Natura. -
Rolf
June 12, 2025 at 9:34 AM Replied to the thread 'Philosophos' web site - philosophical connections.PostThis is excellent, thank you! -
Don
June 11, 2025 at 9:37 PM Replied to a comment by sanantoniogarden on the file Kyria Doxai Comparison.Reply (File)Interesting. You're referring to the letters to Herodotus and Pythocles? I'm not sure how much overlap there is since (in the words of Diogenes Laertius): The first epistle is addressed to Herodotus and deals with physics ; the second to Pythocles and… -
Cassius
June 11, 2025 at 6:51 PM Replied to the thread 'Philosophos' web site - philosophical connections.PostLooks great - thanks Tau Phi! -
TauPhi
June 11, 2025 at 5:02 PM Posted the thread 'Philosophos' web site - philosophical connections.Threadhttp://philosophos.sdf.org/philosophical_…ions/index.html
A great resource for anyone interested in Western Philosophy. It contains interlinked profiles of 126 philosophers with 'connections' at the end of each profile. And these connections are the real… -
sanantoniogarden
June 11, 2025 at 1:20 PM Commented on the file Kyria Doxai Comparison.Comment (File)Thank you for sharing this. An interesting idea to pursue would be to also locate instances of the PDs and VSs in the letters correlate them with this work -
Cassius
PostJune 10, 2025 at 7:24 PM As to the value of practice and the perils of insufficient practice, I just posted a thread here:
Adage: In A Crisis, We Don't Rise To The Occasion As Much As We Fall To Our Level of Practice -
Cassius
ThreadJune 10, 2025 at 7:24 PM In Lucretius Today Podcast Episode 284 we discussed the issue of "practice" in dealing with pain and other challenges, and I found the adage which is the subject of this thread and wanted to pass it on, with its source, as part of that discussion.
The… -
Robert
June 8, 2025 at 1:37 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.PostBryan thanks very much for this! I was interested primarily in the text, though I'm sure the commentary is valuable as well.
Thanks also to you, Don, for the WorldCat link. Possibly some options there. -
Bryan
June 8, 2025 at 12:32 AM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.PostHello Robert, the book can be purchased here:
https://bibliopolis.it/shop/on-choices-and-avoidances/
Most of it is commentary and the translation only runs a few pages:
"It is fair that we speak against the rest of people who have a contrary opinion about… -
Don
June 7, 2025 at 11:37 PM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.Post -
Robert
June 7, 2025 at 11:32 PM Replied to the thread Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances.PostHello! Here I am, four years later, with the same question. Any leads? -
Cassius
June 7, 2025 at 3:12 PM Posted the thread Episode 285 - The Significance Of The Limits Of Pain.ThreadWelcome to Episode 285 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.
Each week we walk you through the… -
Joshua
June 7, 2025 at 2:02 PM Replied to the thread Updated Thoughts on the Question of "Peace and Safety" in the Works of Norman Dewitt.PostPart II is live. I'll try to finish today, but I do need a break for some good old-fashioned acediosus. -
Cassius
June 7, 2025 at 4:24 AM Replied to the thread Updated Thoughts on the Question of "Peace and Safety" in the Works of Norman Dewitt.PostExcellent topic for extended treatment, Joshua. Posting as a thread will allow for comment and suggestions while you are composing and therafter. When it is finished (am I foreshadowing Christianity there?} we will post a full copy to the Articles or… -
Joshua
June 6, 2025 at 10:55 PM Replied to the thread Updated Thoughts on the Question of "Peace and Safety" in the Works of Norman Dewitt.PostPlaceholder for part 3 -
Joshua
June 6, 2025 at 10:55 PM Replied to the thread Updated Thoughts on the Question of "Peace and Safety" in the Works of Norman Dewitt.PostSt. Paul and EpicurusProf. Dewitt cites the scriptures of the Christians many times in Epicurus and His Philosophy, but a longer and more focused treatment is in another work entitled St. Paul and Epicurus. Both were published in 1954, and, while a… -
Joshua
ThreadJune 6, 2025 at 10:55 PM IntroductionItem number 6 on the Getting Started page here at the forum reads as follows;
[…]
We continue to recommend Norman Dewitt's book on Epicurus for many reasons, not least among them being, first, his comprehensive, well-ordered, and systematic… -
Patrikios
June 6, 2025 at 6:54 PM Replied to the thread Who are capable of figuring the problem out.Post[…]
Cassius
Thanks for the insight. I just finished reading the last chapter today which, includes how DeWitt describes Plutarch’s attempt to defend himself.[Epicurus & His Philosophy, Chapter XV, p 351)]
[…] -
Don
June 6, 2025 at 2:05 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post[…] -
Cassius
June 6, 2025 at 1:46 PM Posted the thread Sunday, June 15 - Topic: The Letter of Cosma Raimondi.ThreadOn Sunday June 15th, let's discuss the letter of Cosma Raimondi, a very good defense of Epicurus that many people don't know about.
Link:
Cosma Raimondi's Letter to Ambrogio Tignosi -
Don
June 6, 2025 at 1:42 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post[…]
Yes!! I still remember the Winnebago they were riding in! That was aliens, if I remember, too.
PS. I was 11. -
Kalosyni
June 6, 2025 at 1:29 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post[…]
I think this question happens because of religion, which focuses on heaven, and it makes the world and the earth as something less than heaven/God...so "Is this all there is?" is a remnent left by religious thinking.
Also, the "something less than" is… -
Robert
June 6, 2025 at 1:25 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post[…]
Dating myself now, but can't resist mentioning "Escape to Witch Mountain"--much loved at age 7.
Also: Close Encounters of the Third Kind...fun mix of science and pseudo. -
Don
June 6, 2025 at 1:20 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.PostOn a slightly more serious note, inspired by Joshua 's post, I would offer that the paranormal and pseudoscience feed an answer to the question many seem to ask: Is this all there is?
That question presupposes there's something "less than" about our… -
Kalosyni
June 6, 2025 at 1:19 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.PostSince we live in the material world in which "telepathy" equals guessing...the usual method, although much slower and basically requiring consent (in comparison), to find out what someone is thinking is to ask them to share their thoughts (lol).
Here's… -
Kalosyni
June 6, 2025 at 1:11 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post -
sanantoniogarden
June 6, 2025 at 1:08 PM Replied to the thread Welcome Balin!.PostWelcome balin ! -
Joshua
June 6, 2025 at 12:54 PM Replied to the thread What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity?.Post[…]
-
Cassius
June 8, 2024 at 8:18 PM Today we changed the default theme style to "Inspire Blue." If you have any issues with site colors or simply want to go from light to dark, check the "Change Style" button at the bottom of each page.