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    Welcome Zarathustra

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    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

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    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

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    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

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    Welcome Zarathustra!

    To our existing forum members: Zarathustra is very well educated in all sorts of things, including philosophy and psychotherapy, but he has let me know that he doesn't have much experience with Epicureanism but became more intrigued with it recently after having to write a book chapter on Hellenistic philosophies and psychotherapy.

    So in that spirit I've told him that we have lots of people who enjoy talking about all sorts of issues including psychology matters of all kinds, and we're happy to have him here with us.

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    Welcome aboard!

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    Good day everyone,

    Thank you for the introduction Cassius, and thank you for letting me join the group. As Cassius mentioned my intrest in Epicureanism started when I had to write a book chapter for an edited volume titled the Oxford Handbook of Philosophy as a Way of Life. My chapter was about the relationship between psychotherapy and philosophy as a way of life. In my research of the Hellenistic philosophies I had an oppertunity to read more about Epicureanism. There are several aspects of this philosohy that I find of intrest (1) the notion of the Epicrurean garden (and philosophical friendship) (2) Nietzsche's relationship to Epicureanism (3) it's view of supernatural beliefs and absolute virtues. Out of all the various philosophies and philosophers that have promoted the notion of philosophy as a way of life I seem to feel the most affinity for Epicurean philosophy. So I am here to learn more from others, thank you.

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    Glad to have you Zarathustra. All of the topics you mentioned are of great interest here. I personally am among those most interested in the Nietzsche relationship, but I'm no expert on Nietzsche so I'm of limited use other than in being convinced that there's a fascinating relationship. I think I'll tag Elli in Thessaloniki in this comment as I know she has shared my interest in that for many years. She introduced me to a Greek writer by the name of Liantinis who is related to this interest.

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    Welcome Zarathustra!

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    (2) Nietzsche's relationship to Epicureanism

    Welcome! Have you read Nietzsche and Epicurus by Vinod Acharya? I can share a copy if you haven't.

    I also keep a collection of Nietzsche's commentary on Epicurus:

    • The Anti-Christ
    • Beyond Good and Evil
    • On the Genealogy of Morals
    • Human, All Too Human
    • The Gay Science

    Please let me know of or find excerpts that are missing! I'm actively searching.

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    Glad to have you Zarathustra. All of the topics you mentioned are of great interest here. I personally am among those most interested in the Nietzsche relationship, but I'm no expert on Nietzsche so I'm of limited use other than in being convinced that there's a fascinating relationship. I think I'll tag Elli in Thessaloniki in this comment as I know she has shared my interest in that for many years. She introduced me to a Greek writer by the name of Liantinis who is related to this interest.

    If you run into any issues in using the forum let us know.

    Thank you Cassius.

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    (2) Nietzsche's relationship to Epicureanism

    Welcome! Have you read Nietzsche and Epicurus by Vinod Acharya? I can share a copy if you haven't.

    I also keep a collection of Nietzsche's commentary on Epicurus:

    • The Anti-Christ
    • Beyond Good and Evil
    • On the Genealogy of Morals
    • Human, All Too Human
    • The Gay Science

    Please let me know of or find excerpts that are missing! I'm actively searching.

    Hi Eikadistes, thank you for the welcome. Actually a couple of weeks ago I read two chapters from the edited volume "Nietzsche and Epicurus," A great resource. I plan to read some more soon. You have as great looking website, which i plan to expore in more depth!

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