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Fourth Sunday of the Month - Epicurean Philosophy Discussion

This Zoom meeting is open to registered members of the forum and new members who have fully completed their registration process - There will be a short presentation followed by discussion of Epicurean philosophy. - Facilitated by Cassius and/or co-facilitated by Cassius & Kalosyni.

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Last Posts: Sunday Nov. 23, 2025 - Epicurean Philosophy Discussion Via Zoom - Topic of Discussion

Kalosyni November 22, 2025 at 7:57 PM

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Here you will find our expectations as to standards of conduct and rules here at EpicureanFriends.

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Last Posts: Description Of Forum Levels and Associated Posting Permissions

Kalosyni August 5, 2025 at 11:45 AM

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News and announcements for EpicureanFriends.

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Improving Website Navigation and User Interface

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Twentieth, Holidays, & Birthday Greetings

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Posts: 571

Last Posts: Happy Birthday General Thread

EdGenX December 8, 2025 at 2:02 PM

Happy Thanksgiving 2025

Eikadistes November 27, 2025 at 9:38 PM

The Lucretius Today Podcast

The Lucretius Today Podcast is a weekly panel discussion and presentation of Epicurean philosophy. Each episode of the show has a thread for discussion.

Threads: 327

Posts: 3.8k

Last Posts: Episode 311 - Not Yet Recorded

Cassius December 6, 2025 at 1:31 PM

Episode 310 - TD38 - Neither Happiness Nor Virtue Are Binary States

Cassius December 5, 2025 at 10:57 AM

EpicureanFriends YouTube Videos and Slide Presentations

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Last Posts: The Deep-Set Boundary Stone - Epicurus vs. Geometry In Ethics - Discussion

Cassius January 30, 2025 at 2:15 PM

Bread And Water - Debunking The Myth of Epicurean Asceticism - By Don Boozer

Don January 26, 2025 at 5:22 PM

Self-Study Guides And Materials

Epicurus suggested in his letter to Herodotus that we use outlines to understand and apply his philosophy. In this forum we post and discuss outlines of the philosophy to make navigation easier.

Threads: 43

Posts: 347

Last Posts: Any Recommendations on “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”?

DaveT November 11, 2025 at 9:03 PM

Self-Study Materials - Master Thread and Introductory Course Organization Plan

Cassius October 30, 2025 at 6:30 PM

Ideas For Future Projects - Things We'd Like To See

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Shall We Put Together An Essay Contest With A PrIze Of An Annual "Torquatus Award For Excellence In Epicurean Advocacy"?

Cassius October 12, 2025 at 4:22 PM

FAQ - Discussion

Posts for discussion of the EpicureanFriends Frequently Asked Questions List.

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Posts: 250

Last Posts: After I Identify Pleasure As The Focus of Life, Which Pleasures Should I Pursue? (FAQ Entry Discussion)

Cassius October 16, 2025 at 10:27 AM

General Suggestion Thread for the FAQ

Cassius June 24, 2025 at 7:26 AM

Artificial Intelligence and Epicurean Philosophy

Threads: 10

Posts: 97

Last Posts: Specific Methods of Resistance Against Our Coming AI Overlords

Martin November 22, 2025 at 1:14 AM

Bodily Sensations, Sentience and AI

Patrikios September 11, 2025 at 5:05 PM

Brochures, Pamphlets, and Handouts

Content Creation - Brochures, Pamphlets, Printed Materials

Threads: 33

Posts: 259

Last Posts: Brochure / Leaflet / Handout - Current Info Thread

Cassius October 15, 2025 at 11:33 AM

Epicurus' Hierarchy of Needs

Cassius June 3, 2025 at 8:11 PM

Technology, Social Media, and Internet Activism

Threads: 41

Posts: 261

Last Posts: What's the consensus on transhumanism/brain uploading?

Kalosyni November 29, 2025 at 2:19 PM

Wikipedia

Kalosyni April 16, 2025 at 8:14 AM

Memes and Images - Gallery Discussion

Here we create and share graphics and memes in support of Epicurean philosophy.

Threads: 4

Posts: 5

Last Posts: “A small replica of himself”

Rolf June 23, 2025 at 8:23 AM

Nate Is This One of Your Graphcs? (Epicurus and the Doubting Dog)

Eikadistes June 24, 2021 at 4:12 PM

Controversies in Epicurean Philosophy

There is a pinned article in the General Discussion forum to make new participants aware of these issues. This sub-forum is for starting new threads for detailed discussion of those controversies, and for the suggestion of additional issues to be added to the list.

Threads: 6

Posts: 14

Last Posts: Another flawed video about Epicureanism

Cassius November 8, 2019 at 2:23 AM

An Error-FIlled Video from the Neo-Epicureans: Office Space

Cassius November 7, 2019 at 11:43 AM

3D Printing Resources

Post here information helpful to those who are interested in 3d printing copies of busts, rings, statues, or other artifacts of interest to Epicureans

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Posts: 38

Last Posts: Getting Started - Initial Thoughts on 3D Printing

Joshua May 3, 2021 at 6:39 PM

In-Person Meetings & Events

Please note that local meetings are conducted by their participants and are not officially affiliated with the EpicureanFriends forum.

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Posts: 381

Resources for Creating Epicurean Groups

General discussion of ways and means (theory and practice) to implement Epicurean organizations, as well as discussion on strategies for starting a local group in your area (Meetup, Etc.), along with discussion of live local seminars and other meetings.

Threads: 27

Posts: 335

Last Posts: Epicurean Group Cohesion - Comprehension and Implementation of the Philosophy

Kalosyni October 27, 2025 at 4:27 PM

New "TWENTIERS" Website

Eikadistes August 27, 2025 at 1:06 PM

Meetups, Seminars, Events

Threads: 1

Posts: 31

Last Posts: Voula Tsouna Zoom Presentation This Thursday, May 27, at 12 Noon EDT

Cassius May 28, 2021 at 6:18 AM

Find Fellow Epicureans

Threads: 6

Posts: 15

Last Posts: Epicureans in Singapore

Sid October 10, 2022 at 4:54 AM

Epicurus and Epicurean communities in the Netherlands?

Joshua June 22, 2021 at 2:13 PM

Other Epicurean Organizations

Note that these organizations are not affiliated with EpicureanFriends.com

Threads: 38

Posts: 343

Last Posts: General Thoughts On Organizational Methods - 2022 Edition

Charles December 12, 2022 at 9:45 AM

Websites: EpicSwerve.com

Cassius April 17, 2021 at 10:47 AM

Senegalia Epicurean Festival in Italy

Threads: 5

Posts: 16

Last Posts: 2024 Senigallia Festival

michelepinto July 21, 2024 at 5:33 PM

Epicurus in Senigallia - Italy

Cassius July 13, 2023 at 6:01 AM

Friends of Epicurean Philosophy Garden of Athens

Friends of Epicurean Philosophy Garden of Athens - https://www.epicuros.gr/pages/en.htm This organization is in Athens, Greece and puts on a Panhellenic Symposium of Epicurean Philosophy every February.

Threads: 14

Posts: 74

Last Posts: 15th Panhellenic Symposium Upcoming - February 15, 2025

Cassius September 4, 2025 at 4:40 PM

Christos Yapijakis: Report On The 14th Panhellenic Symposium of Epicurean Philosophy

DavidN February 20, 2024 at 11:59 PM

Society of Epicurus

The Society of Epicurus is an initiative led by Hiram Crespo and headquartered at SocietyofEpicurus.com. There is no official or formal relationship between Epicureanfriends.com and the Society of Epicurus, or between participants in Epicureanfriends.com and members of the Society of Epicurus, except as individuals in either group choose to participate in the other. It should therefore not be presumed that participants in either group agree with or endorse any particular activity or statement of the other. However there is much obvious overlap in areas of interest, and this subforum is made available for use in discussion of particular aspects of the Society of Epicurus, such as its Twenty Tenets of December, 2019, or any other matters of particular relevance to the Society of Epicurus.

Threads: 17

Posts: 249

Last Posts: Discussion of the Society of Epicurus' 20 Tenets of 12/21/19

Cassius December 9, 2022 at 9:03 PM

SOE13: The goal of religion

Elayne January 2, 2020 at 7:54 PM

Physics - General Discussion

Epicurus' views of the nature of the universe are the foundation of every aspect of his philosophy. While many particulars have changed, Epicurus' overall assessment of the non-supernatural nature of the universe remains fully valid today.

Threads: 51

Posts: 502

Last Posts: Epicurean Physics and Canonics at Three Levels of Reality

TauPhi December 3, 2025 at 6:07 PM

On The Importance of Understanding The Nature of Things And Canonics To Ethics (A Post By Elli At Facebook)

Patrikios October 27, 2025 at 4:46 PM

Nothing Can Be Created From Nothing - Nothing Can Be Destroyed To Nothing

Nothing From Nothing / Nothing To Nothing / Eternality of the Universe

Threads: 9

Posts: 88

Last Posts: Must All Things That Have A Beginning Have An End?

Cassius May 2, 2025 at 10:46 AM

New Slideshow: Nothing Comes From Nothing

Cassius November 10, 2024 at 3:51 PM

The Universe Is Eternal In Space

Threads: 15

Posts: 105

Last Posts: Epicurean Views of "Teleology"

Cassius March 14, 2025 at 6:21 PM

Modern Scientific Challenges To Theory That Universe Had A "Big Bang" Beginning

Kalosyni November 11, 2024 at 11:05 AM

Gods Have No Attributes Inconsistent With Blessedness and Incorruptibility

This forum focuses on questions of the "existence" and "nature" of Epicurean gods. The Ethical questions of a proper attitude toward divinity are discussed in this Ethics subforum.

Threads: 51

Posts: 788

Last Posts: Earthly Gods

Eikadistes December 9, 2025 at 1:23 PM

Philodemus "On Gods" in translation (English or other)?

Robert October 13, 2025 at 8:20 PM

The Motion Of Elemental Bodies Has No Supernatural Cause

Threads: 2

Posts: 4

Last Posts: References on Motion in Lucretius and Diogenes Laertius

Cassius April 12, 2025 at 4:25 PM

Elihu Palmer On The Origin of Motion (Eternal, Property of Matter) From "Principles of Nature" 1806

Cassius April 10, 2025 at 11:53 AM

Death Is Nothing To Us - No Immortal Soul

This Physics forum addresses the reasoning behind the conclusion that there is no immortal soul. For the ethical implications of this conclusion, and how to think about this fact, see the Ethics forum.

Threads: 17

Posts: 90

Last Posts: Thought experiment - A vacation without lasting memories

Kalosyni October 3, 2024 at 11:22 AM

No Supernatural Entities, Forces, or Powers and No Ghosts

Patrikios September 28, 2024 at 6:28 PM

There Is No Necessity To Live Under the Control of Necessity - Against Determinism

This forum also includes discussion of such terms as "free will" and "agency."

Threads: 23

Posts: 238

Last Posts: Determinism & Chaos Theory

Bryan January 25, 2025 at 9:01 PM

what did epicurean actually mean by free will ? i think the article on the main page is confusing determinism with fatalism

Root304 December 22, 2024 at 2:24 AM

All Bodies Are Made Of Atoms and Void

Threads: 11

Posts: 26

Last Posts: First Picture of "Free Range Atoms"

Cassius May 6, 2025 at 7:15 AM

Key Citations On Atoms, Void, and Emergence

Cassius February 2, 2025 at 3:44 PM

Nature Operates Through Fundamental Principles

Discussion of the Fundamental Observations About Nature (Physics) Which Are The Starting Point of Epicurean Philosophy.

Threads: 3

Posts: 91

Last Posts: General Notes On Fundamentals of Nature

Cassius June 14, 2024 at 8:40 AM

The Twelve Fundamentals - Discussion on Lucretius Today Podcast

Bryan March 28, 2024 at 6:28 PM

Bodies Have Properties And Qualities

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Video on Emergent Properties

Cassius September 17, 2021 at 9:46 AM

Nature Is Not Controlled By Ideal Forms, Mathematics, or Geometry

This forum will collect discussions of Epicurus' rejection of the use of various arguments associated mainly with Pythagorus and Plato (geometry and mathematical and "ideal forms") or Aristotle (essences) as the basis of an ordered universe created by a supernatural force.

Threads: 4

Posts: 35

Last Posts: Article: "Epicurean Induction and Atomism In Mathematics" - Michael Aristidou (2023)

Cassius August 15, 2025 at 7:19 AM

Plato's Timaeus vs. On Nature, Book 14

Bryan February 24, 2025 at 6:41 PM

The Existence of Life Here And Elsewhere In The Universe

Threads: 13

Posts: 110

Last Posts: Asteroid found to carry all the ingredients for life

Adrastus December 2, 2025 at 3:17 PM

Age of Disclosure -- CNN Review

Cassius November 24, 2025 at 10:22 AM

The Universe Has No Center

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Modern Science On The Issue of the Universe Having No Center

Cassius January 23, 2021 at 9:13 AM

Epicurus On The Universe As Having No Center

Cassius January 23, 2021 at 7:53 AM

There Is A Limit To Divisibility Just As There Is A Limit To Magnitude

Threads: 2

Posts: 20

Last Posts: Epicurus On The Issue of Impossibility of Infinite Divisibility

Cassius January 23, 2021 at 9:17 AM

Indivisibilty And Its Significance

Cassius December 31, 2019 at 9:27 AM

Human Civilization and Language Develop Naturally - Not By Divine Guidance

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Humanity in relation to time (video)

Kalosyni May 26, 2023 at 10:48 AM

Incorporation Of Modern Research

Issues relating to modern research will appear throughout the other forums, but this subforum is specifically devoted to modern researchers whose work is relevant to modern scientific perspectives on physics -- and also human physiology.

Threads: 14

Posts: 147

Last Posts: Article: Scientists in a race to discover why our Universe exists

kochiekoch May 20, 2025 at 1:26 PM

Sabine Hossenfelder - Why the Multiverse Is Religion

Eikadistes May 19, 2025 at 3:39 PM

Isonomia / Isonomy

Threads: 3

Posts: 74

Last Posts: Epicurean Isonomy In The Context Of Statements By Balbus As To Gradations In Life In Book 2 of "On the Nature of the Gods"

Cassius August 10, 2025 at 3:34 PM

Isonomia

Bryan August 31, 2024 at 12:02 PM

The Universe Is Infinite In Space

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Largest Spinning Object in the Known Universe

Cassius December 8, 2025 at 8:07 PM

Canonics - General Discussion

Epicurus held that his "Canon of Truth" is the key to confident level, and the antidote to both unfounded dogmatism and radical skepticism.

Threads: 50

Posts: 444

Last Posts: Sorites Argument Referenced in Cicero's Academic Questions

Cassius December 2, 2025 at 8:16 AM

Making Epicurean Canonics Understandable

Kalosyni October 27, 2025 at 2:30 PM

He Who Says Nothing Can Be Known Knows Nothing - Rejection of Skepticism

Threads: 11

Posts: 33

Last Posts: Cicero's Summary of the Four Main Arguments Against the Possibility of Knowledge

Cassius July 4, 2025 at 5:58 PM

David Sedley's "Epicurean Theories of Knowledge

Cassius August 22, 2024 at 4:54 PM

All Sensations Are True - The Nature of Truth

Was Epicurus An Empiricist?

Threads: 4

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Empiricisms of Antiquity - Book excerpt

Kalosyni January 30, 2024 at 10:05 AM

The Issue of The Untrustworthiness of the Senses

Don April 11, 2021 at 5:41 PM

The Five Senses

Sight, Sound, Touch, Taste, Smell

Threads: 5

Posts: 27

Last Posts: Memorable Line from Lucretius Book IV: "The Eyes Can Know Nothing of the Nature of Things"

Cassius January 2, 2021 at 9:17 AM

Epicurean Perceptual Content by A. Gavran Milos

Godfrey December 5, 2020 at 1:47 PM

Rejection of Dialectical Logic and Skepticism

Threads: 2

Posts: 22

Last Posts: Epicurus' Rejection of Dialectic (Cicero's De Oratore)

Cassius August 15, 2024 at 12:49 PM

The dangers of dialectical logic

DavidN January 26, 2024 at 10:34 PM

The Priority of Nature Over Reason

Threads: 11

Posts: 154

Last Posts: Keen Reasoning Based on the Evidence of the Senses

Cassius November 29, 2022 at 11:13 AM

General Principles For Evaluating Credibility Of Claims And Detecting Deceit

Charles November 29, 2022 at 10:47 AM

The Embrace of Practical Reason

Threads: 4

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Who are capable of figuring the problem out

Patrikios June 6, 2025 at 6:54 PM

Mulitvalent or Manifold Reasoning / Fuzzy Logic

Kalosyni October 24, 2024 at 11:21 AM

Rejection Of Atomic Reductionism

Threads: 2

Posts: 13

Last Posts: Epicurus' Rejection of "Reductionist Atomism" (And The Related Issues of Skepticism and Determinism)

Cassius February 24, 2024 at 2:12 PM

DeWitt on Epicurus' Criticism of Leucippus (and Democritus)

Cassius September 5, 2023 at 1:51 PM

Anticipations / Preconceptions / Prolepsis

Threads: 28

Posts: 395

Last Posts: Epicurus' Prolepsis vs Heraclitus' Flux

Cassius July 15, 2025 at 12:40 PM

Prolepsis of the gods

Eikadistes July 6, 2025 at 10:43 AM

The Feelings / Passions / Internal Sensations: Pleasure and Pain

Feeling: The Faculty of Pleasure and Pain

Threads: 18

Posts: 240

Last Posts: The relationship between pleasure and pain and emotions and feelings

Matteng September 17, 2025 at 3:27 PM

Discussion of Article: "On Pleasure, Pain and Happiness"

Cassius February 12, 2024 at 4:45 PM

Explaining Why Illusions Do Not Invalidate Reliance on The Senses

Threads: 1

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Purpose of this Subforum - Explaining How Illusions Are Corrected By The Senses Themselves

Bryan May 6, 2024 at 3:19 PM

Explaining Epicurus' Position On The "Size of the Sun" And Related Issues of Speculative Math / Geometry

Threads: 3

Posts: 28

Last Posts: "Lucretius on the Size of the Sun", by T.H.M. Gellar-Goad

Cassius July 19, 2025 at 5:21 PM

Why Is Physics Important? To Refute Arguments such as these:

Cassius July 31, 2019 at 9:09 PM

"Images" And Their Significance

Threads: 4

Posts: 22

Last Posts: Was The Epicurean Theory of Images Meant By Epicurus To Take The Place of Conventional Views of "Memory" As A Storage Mechanism?

Cassius April 21, 2021 at 2:19 PM

Cross-Reference: Discussion of Images Impacting the Mind in Lucretius Today Podcast 60

Cassius March 1, 2021 at 8:59 AM

Modern Research Into Issues Relevant to Canonics

Threads: 4

Posts: 92

Last Posts: Embodied Cognitive Science

Pacatus July 27, 2023 at 12:31 PM

Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit

Cassius September 21, 2021 at 11:15 AM

Opposition To Epicurean Canonics

Threads: 1

Posts: 11

Last Posts: Plotinus and Epicurean Epistemology by Lloyd P. Gerson

Eoghan Gardiner June 11, 2023 at 1:10 PM

Ethics - General Discussion

In this section we discuss Epicurean Ethics and how to live as an Epicurean in a world where there are no supernatural gods and no life after death.

Threads: 113

Posts: 1.4k

Last Posts: 'Their God Is The Belly" / "The Root of All Good Is The Pleasure Of The Stomach" And Similar Attributions

Joshua December 11, 2025 at 12:07 AM

Hypotheticals: Would An Epicurean Hook Himself Up To An "Experience Machine" or a "Pleasure Machine"?

kochiekoch December 6, 2025 at 2:41 PM

Pleasure Is The Guide of Life

Threads: 14

Posts: 246

Last Posts: Comparing The Pleasure of A Great Physicist Making A Discovery To The Pleasure of A Lion Eating A Lamb

Cassius September 14, 2025 at 6:09 AM

A List of Pleasures Specifically Endorsed By Epicurus

Cassius September 9, 2025 at 11:48 AM

Absence of Pain - By Pleasure We Mean All Experience That Is Not Painful

Threads: 30

Posts: 194

Last Posts: The Absence of Sin

Don April 22, 2025 at 8:03 AM

The "Lacking Nothing Of Their Natural Severity" Reference in the Letter to Idomeneus

Cassius February 9, 2025 at 8:56 PM

Emotion In Epicurean Philosophy

Threads: 1

Posts: 13

Last Posts: Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view

Kalosyni November 12, 2025 at 3:20 PM

"Good" and "Evil" Consist Only in Sensation

Threads: 47

Posts: 306

Last Posts: Venus and Mars - "Good" vs. "Evil"?

Cassius June 23, 2025 at 3:27 PM

A List of Objections To Epicurus From A Modern Christian - Hyde's "From Epicurus To Christ"

Bryan February 1, 2025 at 6:10 PM

Only Two Feelings - Pleasure and Pain - The Term Pleasure Includes Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc.

The Term Pleasure Includes Bodily as well as Mental Pleasures Such As Tranquility, Meaningfulness, Katastematic, Kinetic, Etc. Likewise The Term Pain Includes All Bodily and Mental Pains.

Threads: 35

Posts: 654

Last Posts: Confusion: "The feelings are only two"

Rolf May 28, 2025 at 1:09 PM

The “Absence of Pain” Problem

Al-Hakiim von Grof April 29, 2025 at 9:41 PM

Pain Is Manageable - It Is Short If Intense, Endurable If Long, And Terminable By Death

Threads: 2

Posts: 27

Last Posts: Does The Wise Man Groan and Cry Out When On The Rack / Under Torture / In Extreme Pain?

Cassius July 1, 2025 at 8:50 AM

What is terrible is easy to endure

Kalosyni October 18, 2024 at 9:11 AM

Life Is Desirable, But Unlimited Time Contains No Greater Pleasure Than Limited Time

Threads: 6

Posts: 30

Last Posts: David Sedley's "Epicurean vs Cyreniac Happiness"

Cassius February 26, 2025 at 3:29 PM

Key CItations - The Limit of Quantity of Pleasure Is Reached When All Pain Is Eliminated

Cassius October 4, 2023 at 12:20 PM

Happiness and its Relationship to Pleasure

Threads: 7

Posts: 73

Last Posts: Happiness As Not Requiring Complete Absence of Pain

Cassius December 4, 2025 at 11:30 AM

Epicurean Philosophy In Relation To Gulags and the Rack

Pacatus April 30, 2025 at 1:46 PM

Choice And Avoidance ("Natural And Necessary"; "Natural and Unnecessary", Etc.)

VS 63 and why we do not pursue only "necessary" desires.

Threads: 12

Posts: 244

Last Posts: Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry

Kalosyni December 1, 2025 at 8:09 AM

Searching out the motives for all choice and avoidance

Kalosyni September 2, 2025 at 1:08 PM

To Live Unknown or To Engage With Society

Threads: 12

Posts: 79

Last Posts: What "Live Unknown" means to me (Lathe Biosas)

TauPhi October 10, 2025 at 11:47 AM

Articles concerning Epicurus and political involvement

sanantoniogarden July 1, 2025 at 2:29 PM

Virtue - Rejection of Absolute Virtue - Virtue As A Means for Pleasure, Not an End in Itself

Threads: 16

Posts: 61

Last Posts: What is Virtue and what aspects of Virtue does an Epicurean cultivate?

Matteng August 29, 2025 at 4:09 PM

Key Citations On Confidence

Don March 13, 2024 at 10:41 PM

Friendship

Threads: 16

Posts: 129

Last Posts: Friendship discussion (moved from 20th conversation)

Pacatus April 29, 2025 at 6:02 PM

Gleaning Information About Epicurean Friendship From Cicero's "On Friendship"

Cassius February 2, 2025 at 7:21 AM

Courage

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Justice

Threads: 30

Posts: 291

Last Posts: Toward A Better Understanding of Epicurean Justice And Injustice (With Examples of "Just" and "Unjust")

Pacatus November 20, 2024 at 4:35 PM

Justice & Corruption

Pacatus November 14, 2024 at 4:23 PM

Prudence

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Honesty

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Gratitude

Threads: 3

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Positive psychology article of the science of gratitude

Don November 27, 2024 at 8:27 PM

Key Citations On Gratitude

Cassius October 4, 2023 at 11:41 AM

Benevolence

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Confidence and "Faith"

Threads: 1

Posts: 19

Last Posts: "Faith" And Confidence In Epicurean Philosophy

Pacatus August 27, 2025 at 7:55 PM

Temperance

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Consideration - Considerateness

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Hope For The Future

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Key Citations On Hope

Cassius October 4, 2023 at 12:14 PM

Living In The Present

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Key Citations On Living In The Present

Cassius October 4, 2023 at 12:15 PM

Remembering Past Pleasures

Threads: 1

Posts: 5

Last Posts: The Art of Remembering

Don March 31, 2024 at 8:57 PM

The Tetrapharmakon

Threads: 5

Posts: 121

Last Posts: Diving Deep Into The History of The Tetrapharmakon / Tetrapharmakos

Patrikios November 9, 2025 at 4:00 PM

P.Herc. 1005 from Les Epicuriens (A First Draft Translation)

Bryan May 1, 2025 at 8:36 PM

Epicurean Life Strategies for Modern Times

For discussion of daily life as an Epicurean.

Threads: 105

Posts: 1k

Last Posts: Epicurean strategies for dealing with bad habits and urges.

Patrikios November 30, 2025 at 9:39 AM

Should Epicureans Celebrate Something Else Instead of Celebrating Halloween?

Don November 1, 2025 at 4:37 PM

Answering the "Quest For Meaning" In Epicurean Terms

Threads: 6

Posts: 84

Last Posts: The "meaning crisis" trend. How do you answer it as an Epicurean philosopher?

Sam_Qwerty July 23, 2025 at 6:47 PM

An Anti-Epicurean Article - "The Meaning of Life Is Not Happiness" (For Future Reference)

Pacatus November 19, 2024 at 12:17 PM

Creating Joy Through Pleasure

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Health And Diet

Threads: 18

Posts: 153

Last Posts: Food, desire, and pleasure: What role should food take in an Epicurean lifestyle?

Pacatus November 26, 2025 at 6:09 PM

On Unhealthy Social Media Use / If Epicurus Were Alive Today, Would He Use A Smartphone?

Sam_Qwerty July 24, 2025 at 8:19 PM

Dealing with Emotions of Anxiety, Depression, Anger, Sadness

Threads: 22

Posts: 115

Last Posts: Special Emphasis On "Emotions" In Lucretius Today Podcast / Tusculan Disputations - Should Everyone Aspire To Emulate Mr. Spock?

Cassius June 29, 2025 at 3:39 PM

BASIC-ph Model of Coping

Kalosyni April 23, 2025 at 6:57 PM

Dealing With Death, Dying, And Old Age

Threads: 23

Posts: 213

Last Posts: Dignitas founder Ludwig Minelli, dies by assisted suicide aged 92

Kalosyni December 4, 2025 at 9:13 AM

Fear and/or grief concerning the death of others

Kalosyni August 5, 2025 at 7:59 PM

Stress, Time Management, and Personal Productivity

Threads: 7

Posts: 23

Last Posts: Minimalism to remove stress caused by too much stuff

Joshua May 23, 2025 at 3:23 PM

Box Breathing and Prolepsis

kochiekoch December 2, 2024 at 9:32 AM

Material Goods and Money Management

Threads: 3

Posts: 32

Last Posts: Natural Wealth and Natural Goods in Epicureanism

Don August 14, 2022 at 9:04 AM

Philodemus' "On Property Management"

Cassius July 21, 2022 at 11:56 AM

Self-Sufficiency - Including Gardening, Farming, Agriculture

Threads: 4

Posts: 60

Last Posts: Interesting website that connects people to work-stay vacations - farms

sanantoniogarden July 1, 2025 at 5:10 PM

Dealing With Electric Grid Disruption

Julia May 13, 2024 at 4:22 AM

Romantic Love, Relationships, and Marriage

Threads: 24

Posts: 195

Last Posts: An Epicurean Understanding of Valentine's Day: Love, Romance, and Free-will

Kalosyni February 13, 2025 at 8:28 AM

Article "Asexuality and Epicureanism" by Max DuBoff on blog of the American Philosophical Association

Martin December 20, 2024 at 8:30 PM

Parenting and Childhood Education

No! Epicurus was not uneducated: the real philistines are those who ask us to go on studying till old age the subjects that we ought to be ashamed not to have learned as children.

Threads: 2

Posts: 3

Last Posts: Recreate an Ancient Scroll - For kids (and crafters)

Kalosyni October 21, 2023 at 11:39 AM

Epicurean Philosophy for Parents

Cassius February 22, 2021 at 9:14 AM

Uncategorized Discussion (General)

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Threads: 512

Posts: 4.3k

Last Posts: Apollo vs Dionysus - The Philosophical Issues

Cassius December 10, 2025 at 8:02 AM

Aristarchus calculation of the "size" of the sun

Kalosyni December 7, 2025 at 7:07 PM

Sources Of Texts

This subforum is devoted to discussion and group collaboration to make Epicurean texts more accessible in modern English and other languages

Threads: 3

Posts: 34

Last Posts: Personal Epicurean Knowledge Base Using Text (Markdown) Files

Cassius February 17, 2022 at 2:36 AM

Lucretius - Essential and most important texts

Cassius January 27, 2020 at 3:54 PM

Translators, Translations, Learning Latin & Ancient Greek

Threads: 18

Posts: 241

Last Posts: So You Want To Learn Ancient Greek Or Latin?

Don December 7, 2025 at 11:16 AM

Diogenes Laertius Book X - public domain translations

Cassius April 22, 2025 at 2:41 PM

Epicurus - Letters And Works

The key surviving documents from Epicurus himself, including the Letter to Herodotus, the Letter to Pythocles, the letter to Menoeceus, the Principal Doctrines, and the "Vatican" List of Sayings.

Threads: 243

Posts: 1.6k

The Letter to Herodotus

Discussion of the Letter to Herodotus - On The Nature Of The Universe

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: The Letter to Herodotus

Cassius May 1, 2019 at 9:11 PM

The Letter to Herodotus - Translation By Cyril Bailey

Cassius April 30, 2015 at 9:18 AM

The Letter to Pythocles

Discussion of the Letter to Pythocles - On Celestial Observations

Threads: 4

Posts: 20

Last Posts: The phenomenon listed in the Letter to Pythocles, and our current scientific understanding

Kalosyni July 15, 2024 at 5:40 PM

Astronomical Events During the Time of Epicurus (& Discussion on Letter to Pythocles Section 91)

Cassius May 28, 2021 at 1:14 PM

The Letter to Menoeceus

Discussion of the letter to Menoeceus - On How To Live

Threads: 16

Posts: 224

Last Posts: The Letter to Menoikeus - A New Translation with Commentary

Don December 5, 2025 at 2:30 AM

Reasoning through the Letter to Menoeceus' On the Gods

Eikadistes October 24, 2025 at 5:02 PM

The Letter to Idomeneus

Threads: 2

Posts: 21

Last Posts: To Whom Was Epicurus' Last Letter Addressed?

Eikadistes December 31, 2024 at 8:52 AM

The Letter to Idomeneus

Cassius May 1, 2019 at 9:14 PM

Epicurus - Principal Doctrines

This subforum is devoted to the Principal Doctrines of Epicurus. Please note:

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** Click here for a listing of all Principle Doctrine threads in order by doctrine
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** The Vatican List Of Sayings Of Epicurus **

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Threads: 111

Posts: 898

Last Posts: PD33 - Alternate Translations

Cassius July 5, 2025 at 7:24 PM

PD32 - Alternate Translations

Cassius July 5, 2025 at 7:22 PM

Epicurus - The "Vatican List" of Sayings

This subforum is devoted to the Vatican List of Sayings. Please note:

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** The Vatican List Of Sayings Of Epicurus **

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VS16	\|	VS17	\|	VS18	\|	VS19	\|	VS20
VS21	\|	VS22	\|	VS23	\|	VS24	\|	VS25
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VS31	\|	VS32	\|	VS33	\|	VS34	\|	VS35
VS36	\|	VS37	\|	VS38	\|	VS39	\|	VS40
VS41	\|	VS42	\|	VS43	\|	VS44	\|	VS45
VS46	\|	VS47	\|	VS48	\|	VS49	\|	VS50
VS51	\|	VS52	\|	VS53	\|	VS54	\|	VS55
VS56	\|	VS57	\|	VS58	\|	VS59	\|	VS60
VS61	\|	VS62	\|	VS63	\|	VS64	\|	VS65
VS66	\|	VS67	\|	VS68	\|	VS69	\|	VS70
VS71	\|	VS72	\|	VS73	\|	VS74	\|	VS75
VS76	\|	VS77	\|	VS78	\|	VS79	\|	VS80
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Threads: 104

Posts: 359

Last Posts: VS16 - Source in Vat.gr.1950 manuscript

Kalosyni November 10, 2025 at 11:55 AM

VS14 - "Occupied" vs. "Without Allowing Himself Leisure."

Kalosyni September 30, 2025 at 2:49 PM

On Nature

Collecting and discussing the available fragments.

Threads: 4

Posts: 38

Last Posts: Epíkouros' On Nature, Book 28 vs. Plato's Cratylus

Bryan February 23, 2025 at 7:38 PM

Epicurus, On Nature, Book 34, P.Herc. 1431, col. 16

Don May 31, 2024 at 9:31 AM

Diogenes Laertius - Biography of Epicurus And Summary of Doctrines

Threads: 13

Posts: 158

Diogenes Laertius (General)

Threads: 4

Posts: 72

Last Posts: Diogenes Laertius on Epicurean Ethics

Godfrey December 2, 2021 at 1:58 AM

Best Recent Version of Diogenes Laertius?

Cassius September 6, 2021 at 9:45 AM

The Biography and Will of Epicurus

Discussion of the Biography and Last Will of Epicurus

Threads: 5

Posts: 10

Last Posts: The Biography of Epicurus By Diogenes Laertius

Don November 1, 2023 at 1:38 PM

Diogenes Laertius Biography of Epicurus Loeb Edition

Cassius January 16, 2022 at 12:39 PM

The Sayings As To The Wise Man (from Diogenes Laertius)

Discussions of each of the sayings recorded by Diogenes Laertius as those regarding the "Wise Man"

Threads: 4

Posts: 76

Last Posts: The Sayings As To The Wise Man

Kalosyni August 19, 2023 at 9:11 PM

"Wise Man" Saying as to Rejoicing At the Misfortune of Another

Don July 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM

Lucretius - On The Nature of Things

Discussion of the great poem of Epicurean Literature "De Rerum Natura"

Threads: 67

Posts: 552

General Discussion of "On The Nature of Things"

Threads: 37

Posts: 257

Last Posts: Preparing A Public Domain Audio And Text Version Lucretius In Modern American English

Cassius October 16, 2025 at 3:24 PM

Best Lucretius translation?

Eikadistes July 1, 2025 at 1:59 PM

Lucretius PDF Reference Edition

Threads: 2

Posts: 14

Last Posts: Lucretius - Epicureanfriends.com Reference Edition - Version 01 - 01/11/20

Cassius January 11, 2020 at 11:31 AM

Lucretius EpicureanFriends PDF Reference Edition - General Comments

Cassius October 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM

Versions of the Text of Lucretius

This forum is for discussion of the many different translations and editions of the text of the poem.

Threads: 14

Posts: 188

Last Posts: Favorite Translation of Lucretius

Cassius June 27, 2025 at 5:41 AM

Lucretius - Side-By-Side English and Latin Versions

Cassius March 31, 2025 at 7:41 PM

De Rerum Natura - Topics By Book

Topics By Book

Threads: 14

Posts: 93

Book 1

Threads: 4

Posts: 21

Last Posts: "Pleasure" and the opening line of Lucretius

Little Rocker January 13, 2023 at 7:29 PM

The blazing battlements of the world

Cassius July 17, 2021 at 7:32 PM

Book 2

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: "Each creature knows its own kind, no less than men, and so unite together."

Cassius September 16, 2019 at 8:55 PM

Four Translations of A Key Selection from Lucretius - Gods Did Not Design the World for Men, and Pleasure is the Guide of Life

Cassius June 30, 2018 at 9:55 AM

Book 3

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: The Nature of the Mind, the Spirit, and Death

Kalosyni October 19, 2025 at 4:55 PM

Book 4

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Book 5

Threads: 2

Posts: 33

Last Posts: Epicurean philosophy skewing toward elements of Stoicism in the time of Lucretius??

Godfrey April 29, 2025 at 12:36 AM

Lucretius On The Development of Language

Joshua October 25, 2019 at 1:49 PM

Book 6

Threads: 5

Posts: 35

Last Posts: The Vessel Analogy At The Opening of Lucretius Book Six

Don September 14, 2023 at 7:01 PM

Thoughts On What Lucretius Might Have Considered For The Ending of Book Six - A Comparison Chart of Thucydides and Lucretius

Joshua January 15, 2023 at 9:17 PM

Diogenes of Oinoanda

Threads: 8

Posts: 35

The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda

Threads: 8

Posts: 35

Last Posts: The Role of Virtue in Epicurean Philosophy According the Wall of Oinoanda

Kalosyni September 12, 2025 at 9:26 AM

Oenoanda fragments

TauPhi January 9, 2025 at 12:55 PM

Philodemus - Texts and Fragments

Links and Information from Philodemus including from the scrolls found at the Villa de Papyri in Herculaneum.

Threads: 34

Posts: 409

Epicurean Philosophy According to Philodemus (General Discussion)

Threads: 15

Posts: 157

Last Posts: The influence of Philodemus on [Horace's] Epistles 1 - dissertation Migliore

Kalosyni October 4, 2025 at 10:10 AM

Philodemus on the Therapy of Vice - Tsouna Article

Kalosyni April 24, 2025 at 9:54 AM

Philodemus - On / Against _??_ (In Which The "Tetrapharmakon" Appears)

The Herculaneum scroll of incomplete title in which the "Tetrapharmakon" appears, often referred to by Papyrus Number ( "P.Herc 1005") or by the surviving partial title in Greek "Pros Tous..."

Threads: 5

Posts: 43

Last Posts: Another Tetrapharmakos Video Discussion

Titus June 3, 2024 at 1:43 PM

The Tetrapharmakon - Sound Epicurean Doctrine, or Oversimplification?

Cassius February 26, 2022 at 5:00 AM

Philodemus On Anger

Threads: 2

Posts: 22

Last Posts: Philodemus' "On Anger" - General - Texts and Resources

Kalosyni July 8, 2025 at 7:33 AM

Reasonings on Anger

Hiram May 18, 2015 at 11:16 AM

Philodemus On Death

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

On the Good King According to Homer

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: On the Good King According to Homer (Overview)

Kalosyni September 26, 2025 at 2:37 PM

Philodemus On Frank Criticism

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Philodemus Discussion on Frank Speech

Kalosyni September 17, 2023 at 7:20 PM

Philodemus On Methods of Inference

Threads: 4

Posts: 83

Last Posts: "On Methods of Inference": Notes For Review And Discussion (Including David Sedley Article: "On Signs")

Cassius March 8, 2024 at 8:12 AM

"On Methods of Inference" - Best Source for the Text And Getting Started

Bryan December 14, 2023 at 10:08 AM

Philodemus On Property Management

Threads: 1

Posts: 82

Last Posts: The Neglect of Metrodorus’ Economics

Elli February 27, 2020 at 8:10 AM

Philodemus On Piety

Threads: 2

Posts: 3

Last Posts: Good article about Philodemus' On Piety Scroll

Kalosyni August 19, 2024 at 7:21 PM

The "Third Way" Proposed by Ilkka Vuoristo and Hiram Crespo

Hiram May 18, 2015 at 11:31 AM

Philodemus On Poems

Threads: 1

Posts: 7

Last Posts: Introduction---Joshua's Notes on "The Good Poem According to Philodemus", by Michael McOsker

Pacatus November 2, 2022 at 12:48 PM

Philodemus On Rhetoric

Threads: 2

Posts: 9

Last Posts: "Democracy, the worst form of government."

Cassius June 29, 2024 at 9:41 AM

Reasonings About Philodemus’ Rhetorica

Hiram May 18, 2015 at 11:33 AM

Lucian of Samosata

Threads: 15

Posts: 29

Lucian of Samosata - General

Threads: 13

Posts: 18

Last Posts: Lucian: The Double Indictment

Don August 29, 2025 at 5:44 AM

Lucian of Samosata in the Index Librorum Prohibitorum

Don March 20, 2025 at 6:16 AM

Alexander the Oracle Monger

Threads: 1

Posts: 10

Last Posts: Lucian: Alexander, The Oracle-Monger

kochiekoch August 28, 2024 at 1:05 PM

Hermotimus

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Lucian: Hermotimus, The Rival Philosophies

Cassius February 14, 2019 at 3:11 PM

The True History

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Cicero

The works of Marcus Tullius Cicero

Threads: 13

Posts: 50

Cicero - General

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

On Ends

Threads: 4

Posts: 18

Last Posts: High-Quality Narration of: Cicero - On the Ends of Good and Evil

Don June 23, 2024 at 2:11 AM

On Ends Torquatus Section Discussion

Kalosyni May 25, 2023 at 2:33 PM

On The Nature Of The Gods

Threads: 2

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Youtube Video Discussing Cicero's "On The Nature of The Gods" (Classical Wisdom Podcast)

Godfrey June 10, 2024 at 9:00 PM

Cross-Reference to Lucretius Today Podcast Discussion of "On The Nature Of The Gods"

Cassius May 31, 2024 at 9:29 AM

Tusculun Disputations

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Planning for Discussion of "Tusculan Disputations" (Lucretius Today Podcast)

Cassius March 14, 2025 at 8:30 AM

On Fate

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

On Divination

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: An Example of Stoic Logical Reasoning - On Divination

Cassius October 26, 2024 at 8:17 PM

Academic Questions

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Planning for Discussion of "Academic Questions" (Lucretius Today Podcast)

Cassius January 24, 2025 at 7:12 AM

General Discussion of Cicero

Threads: 2

Posts: 9

Last Posts: On Latin and Cicero's eloquence

Martin September 28, 2025 at 10:29 AM

A Ciceronian Witticism Referencing Epicurus

Little Rocker May 18, 2024 at 6:11 PM

On Duties / "De Officiis"

Threads: 2

Posts: 11

Last Posts: Cicero Fighting It Out "Horse And Foot" With Epicurus (Cicero's References to Epicurus in "On Duties" )

Cassius July 23, 2025 at 6:49 PM

Comparing Cicero's "De Officiis", Thomas Jefferson's "Social Duties", and Epicurean Philosophy

Kalosyni July 23, 2025 at 12:32 PM

Plutarch

Threads: 5

Posts: 9

Plutarch - General

Threads: 1

Posts: 5

Last Posts: Plutarch's Major Works Against Epicurus

Cassius July 30, 2025 at 6:48 PM

That Epicurus Actually Makes A Pleasant Life Impossible

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Summary of Plutarch's Argument

Cassius August 14, 2025 at 8:25 AM

That Epicurus Actually Makes A Pleasant Life Impossible Texts at Perseus Project

Don July 30, 2025 at 11:34 AM

Reply To Colotes In Defense Of Other Philosophers

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Reply To Colotes Texts at Perseus Project

Don July 30, 2025 at 11:45 AM

Is 'Live Unknown' A Wise Precept?

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Is 'Live Unknown' A Wise Precept? Texts at Perseus Project

Don July 30, 2025 at 2:23 PM

Collections - Usener, The "Suda," and "The Greek Anthology"

Threads: 11

Posts: 67

The Suda

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Sources for Information About Epicurus In The Suda

Cassius April 10, 2024 at 9:32 PM

"The Greek Anthology"

Threads: 4

Posts: 28

Last Posts: Epigram on the Twentieth

Don June 20, 2025 at 6:25 AM

Epigrams on Atomism

Cassius December 11, 2020 at 4:22 PM

Usener Collection

Threads: 6

Posts: 38

Last Posts: Porphyry - Letter to Marcella -"Vain Is the Word of the Philosopher..."

Bryan June 3, 2025 at 11:17 PM

Usener Collection of Epicurean Materials - Harris Edition

Cassius March 20, 2025 at 11:36 AM

Herculaneum Scrolls

Threads: 14

Posts: 59

Herculaneum Text Research

Threads: 14

Posts: 59

Last Posts: Major Herculaneum Scroll News: "In the closing section of the text our author takes a parting shot at his adversaries, who 'have nothing to say about pleasure, either in general or in particular, when it is a question of definition.'”

TauPhi October 13, 2025 at 10:23 PM

New Article in 'Nature' - April 23rd, 2025

Joshua April 23, 2025 at 8:56 PM

Other Ancient Writers (Horace, Virgil, Etc.)

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

General

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Meaning behind Horace's Quote

Kalosyni January 22, 2025 at 8:16 AM

Recommended Books

EpicureanFriends' selection of "modern" recommended books about Epicurus and Epicurean Philosophy.

Threads: 98

Posts: 633

Epicurus And His Philosophy - Norman DeWitt

Discussion of the Best General Introductory Book on Epicurean Philosophy, including chapter discussion outlines.

Threads: 46

Posts: 273

Epicurus And His Philosophy - General

Threads: 14

Posts: 176

Last Posts: Updated Thoughts on the Question of "Peace and Safety" in the Works of Norman Dewitt

Joshua June 7, 2025 at 2:02 PM

My struggle with Norman DeWitt

Cassius August 25, 2023 at 1:59 PM

Epicurus and His Philosophy - Chapter Specific Threads

Threads: 32

Posts: 97

Last Posts: Discussion Plan For Chapter 09 "The New Physics" (Norman DeWitt's "Epicurus And His Philosophy")

Bryan December 20, 2024 at 10:17 AM

Reflections on chapter 11

Marco January 29, 2022 at 4:48 AM

Living for Pleasure: An Epicurean Guide to Life - Emily Austin

"...strongly recommend it as a “popular” introduction to the philosophy of Epicurus. Dr. Austin is both an engaging writer and an experienced teacher-scholar, and she combines many great references with what I believe to be an excellent eye for interpreting Epicurus in almost every major area of controversy you might wish to examine. The book is aimed at intelligent but non-specialist readers, and so it’s suitable for almost everyone. It is one of the most thorough and well documented current popular books on Epicurus that you will find anywhere, but it is so good it left me wishing it were even longer. I would like to have seen it spend more time on subjects such as Epicurus’ canonics / epistemology, but what we might wish for as perfect is not the enemy of the good, and this book is very very good. " -- excerpt from a book review by Cassius.

Threads: 15

Posts: 189

Last Posts: Epicurean Fear of Death

TauPhi December 10, 2025 at 4:58 PM

Against using the word "corrosive" for the "unnatural/unnecessary" category

Don November 19, 2025 at 8:24 AM

A Few Days In Athens - Frances Wright

Threads: 31

Posts: 118

General Discussion of "A Few Days In Athens"

Threads: 12

Posts: 21

Last Posts: Reactions To "Hedeia" - Chapter Twelve of AFDIA

SimonC April 28, 2022 at 8:42 AM

Video: Re-Enactor of Frances Wright from Durham Library

Cassius February 7, 2022 at 3:01 PM

A Few Days In Athens - Chapter Specific Threads

The complete book, for discussion chapter by chapter.

Threads: 19

Posts: 97

Last Posts: AFDIA - Chapter Seven - Text and Discussion

Cassius September 9, 2025 at 10:57 AM

AFDIA - Recap And General Comments After Reading Book / Completing the Chapter By Chapter Review

Cassius May 29, 2022 at 5:47 AM

Epicurus And The Pleasant Life - Haris Dimitriadis

Threads: 2

Posts: 23

Last Posts: Second Edition of Haris Dimitriadis' "Epicurus And the Pleasant Life" Now Released

Todd January 12, 2023 at 8:22 AM

Dimitriadis (Haris) - "Epicurus And The Pleasant Life"

Cassius May 25, 2020 at 4:26 PM

Theory And Practice In Epicurean Political Philosophy - Javier Aoiz and Marcelo Boeri

Full Title: Theory And Practice In Epicurean Political Philosophy: Security, Justice, & Tranquility

Threads: 4

Posts: 30

Last Posts: Book: "Theory and Practice in Epicurean Political Philosophy" by Javier Aoiz & Marcelo Boeri

Pacatus November 11, 2024 at 5:28 PM

Classical Review Article By Nathan Gilbert

Cassius October 25, 2023 at 4:00 PM

Other Books On Epicurean Philosophy

There are many excellent books and other resources available, and here we discuss those which we find most useful.

Threads: 42

Posts: 308

How to be an Epicurean - Catherine Wilson

Catherine Wilson tends to represent her own political views as those of Epicurus, and so her books must be read very carefully. Nevertheless her material is significantly better than many other current commentators because she does not overstress "tranquility." She is very active currently so this subforum is dedicated to her work.

Threads: 10

Posts: 136

Last Posts: Catherine Wilson's List of Wrongs (From How To Be An Epicurean)

Godfrey September 10, 2024 at 1:27 AM

Latest Catherine Wilson Article: "Why Epicureanism, Not Stoicism, Is the Philosophy We Need Now"

Cassius January 7, 2022 at 6:24 AM

St Paul And Epicurus - Norman DeWitt

Threads: 10

Posts: 45

Last Posts: Short article with info from DeWitt

Titus November 12, 2023 at 3:52 PM

Colossians

Don October 13, 2023 at 10:03 PM

Other Writers

Threads: 10

Posts: 97

Last Posts: Stephen Greenblatt - The Swerve (2011)

Joshua December 1, 2025 at 9:07 PM

Preuss - "Epicurean Ethics - Katastematic Hedonism"

Cassius August 14, 2025 at 11:57 AM

Bailey's "Epicurus - The Extant Remains"

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Epicurean-Relevant Texts From Or About The 1700's - 1800's; Including Deism.

Authors and Publications from or about the period between 1700 - 1900. specifically including the major works of Deism

Threads: 11

Posts: 29

Last Posts: Elihu Palmer - "Principles of Nature" Et al.

Cassius April 10, 2025 at 11:56 AM

Sermon On Natural Religion - By "A Natural Man" - Likely Thomas Young

Cassius April 10, 2025 at 10:55 AM

Furley (David) - Two Studies In The Greek Atomists

1 - Invisible Magnitudes 2 - Aristotle and Epicurus On Voluntary Action

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: General Discussion On "Two Studies In The Greek Atomists

Cassius September 2, 2024 at 8:52 AM

Articles Prepared By Professional Academics

Scholarly Articles on Epicureanism. Articles of Critical Importance are "sticky" and set off with asterisks. ***

Threads: 30

Posts: 191

Last Posts: Boris Nikolsky - Article On His Interest in Classical Philosophy (Original In Russian)

Cassius September 8, 2025 at 10:37 AM

Boris Nikolsky's 2023 Summary Of His Thesis About Epicurus On Pleasure (From "Knife" Magazine)

Cassius September 6, 2025 at 5:32 PM

Research Assistance

Post here requests for help in locating particular documents

Threads: 4

Posts: 15

Last Posts: Testing ChatGPT with Epicurean Philosophy

Cassius March 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM

Possibly Helpful Research Tools For Loeb Editions, Etc

Cassius April 19, 2022 at 9:03 AM

Epicurus on the Internet, Analysis

Threads: 7

Posts: 44

Last Posts: A Worthwhile Podcast Episode Entitled: " Hume, The Epicureans, And the Origins of Liberalism"

Cassius May 1, 2024 at 10:46 AM

The Description of Epicurean Philosophy On Wikipedia

Bryan February 1, 2024 at 3:03 PM

Videos and Podcasts

Threads: 80

Posts: 684

Last Posts: The Fun Habit by Mike Rucker

Kalosyni August 15, 2025 at 9:24 AM

"A Happy Greek" play by Christos Yapijakis (YouTube)

Patrikios November 23, 2024 at 5:17 PM

Articles, Books, or Presentations By Participants At EpicureanFriends

Epicurean philosophy prepared by participants at EpicureanFriends.

Threads: 11

Posts: 106

Last Posts: New Article On The Location of the Garden

Don June 19, 2025 at 6:43 PM

Looking for constructive feedback on my mostly Epicurean philosophy of life

philosofer123 September 19, 2024 at 7:55 PM

Epicurus

Forum for details of the life of Epicurus

Threads: 8

Posts: 212

Last Posts: Epicurus' Birthday 2023 - (The Most Comprehensive Picture Yet!)

Cassius October 10, 2024 at 7:42 PM

Epicurus' Appearance - Research Into What He Looked Like

Eikadistes April 22, 2024 at 9:13 PM

Metrodorus

Threads: 4

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Metrodorus - Main Biography

Bryan November 21, 2023 at 11:51 PM

Verified Pictures of Metrodorus

Don May 19, 2022 at 2:14 PM

Hermarchus

Threads: 3

Posts: 24

Last Posts: Recorded Statements of Metrodorus

Patrikios November 20, 2025 at 9:18 PM

Hermarchus - Main Biography

Don June 26, 2024 at 8:11 AM

Polyaenus

Threads: 3

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Polyaenus - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:02 PM

Images of Polyaenus?

Joshua February 23, 2022 at 4:57 PM

Leontion

Threads: 2

Posts: 13

Last Posts: Leontion (Leontium) - Main Biography

Pacatus March 20, 2024 at 5:23 PM

An Anonymous Epigram from the Greek Anthology

Cassius August 6, 2020 at 12:03 PM

Colotes of Lampsacus

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Colotes - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:06 PM

Polystratus

Threads: 2

Posts: 7

Last Posts: Surviving Quotations From Polystratus

Cassius September 10, 2025 at 7:18 AM

Polystratus - Main Biography

Bryan January 25, 2024 at 4:21 PM

Dionysus of Lamptrai

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Dionysus of Lamptrai - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:05 PM

Timasagorus of Rhodes

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Surviving References To Timasagorus

Cassius September 10, 2025 at 7:39 AM

Apollodorus

Threads: 1

Posts: 3

Last Posts: "Apollodorus of Athens"

Bryan July 6, 2025 at 10:10 PM

Zeno of Sidon

Threads: 4

Posts: 15

Last Posts: Footnote On Zeno

Don September 2, 2025 at 6:40 AM

The Bust of Zeno of Sidon

Joshua June 6, 2024 at 12:14 AM

Philonides of Laodicea

Threads: 2

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Philonides of Laodicea - Main Biography

Bryan April 12, 2025 at 11:57 PM

Philonides of Laodicea (NewEpicurean blog post)

Cassius September 23, 2020 at 7:45 AM

Antiochus Epiphanes

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Antiochus Epiphanes - Main Biography

Bryan April 12, 2025 at 7:59 PM

Diogenes of Oinoanda

Threads: 4

Posts: 10

Last Posts: Fragment 32 -- The "Shouting To All Greeks And Non-Greeks That Virtue Is Not The Goal" Passage

Don September 13, 2025 at 10:32 AM

Diogenes of Oinoanda - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:12 PM

Lucian of Samosata

Threads: 1

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Lucian of Samosata - Main Biography

Bryan March 20, 2025 at 6:06 PM

Unsolved Questions of Epicurean History

Threads: 4

Posts: 145

Last Posts: Where Is Epicurus In The "School of Athens"?

Eikadistes August 23, 2025 at 5:51 PM

Authorship of the 1743 Prose Translation of Lucretius

Cassius July 14, 2024 at 6:00 PM

Lucius Manlius Torquatus

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Lucius Manlius Torquatus - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:17 PM

Titus Pomponius Atticus

Threads: 2

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Death of Titus Pomponius Atticus, 32 BC (Sun, Mar 31st 2024)

Joshua March 3, 2024 at 11:57 AM

Titus Pomponius Atticus - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:19 PM

Siro of Naples

Teacher of Virgil. (also Syro, Siron, or Syron; fl. c. 50 BC) Siro was an Epicurean philosopher who lived in Naples.

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Siro of Naples - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:20 PM

Philodemus of Gadara

Forum for general discussion of Philodemus

Threads: 9

Posts: 33

Last Posts: Tsouna's On Choices and Avoidances

Cassius August 26, 2025 at 2:56 PM

Article: "Philodemus on the Epicurean Virtue of Megalopsychia: Will the Sage Distain Other People?"

Cassius March 14, 2025 at 5:57 PM

Lucius Calpurnius Piso

Patron of Philodemus, Owner of the villa of the paypri, and father-in-law of Julius Caesar

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Lucius Calpurnius Piso - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:22 PM

Lucius Calpurnius Piso

Kalosyni August 20, 2023 at 1:50 PM

Gaius Cassius Longinus

Threads: 6

Posts: 18

Last Posts: Cassius Longinus' Letters to and From Cicero

Don May 1, 2025 at 7:08 AM

Gaius Cassius Longinus' Political Actions

DavidN February 8, 2024 at 3:26 AM

Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace)

Threads: 12

Posts: 39

Last Posts: Horace - Buying Pleasure With Pain is Harmful (????)

Kalosyni August 27, 2025 at 2:16 PM

Horace's Birthday (December 8)

Don December 8, 2023 at 7:00 AM

Titus Lucretius Carus

This subforum is for discussion of the details of Lucretius' life. Discussion of his "De Rerum Natura" poem has its own section of the forum.

Threads: 2

Posts: 38

Last Posts: Lucretius' Appearance - Research into What He Looked Like

Remus June 23, 2024 at 1:36 PM

Titus Lucretius Carus - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:33 PM

Rabirius

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Rabirius - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:35 PM

Catius Insuber

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Catius Insuber - Main Biography

Cassius November 20, 2023 at 3:37 PM

Gaius Velleius

Threads: 1

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Gaius Velleius - Main Biography

Joshua November 20, 2023 at 9:24 PM

Demetrius Lacon

Threads: 1

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Demetrius Lacon - Main Biography

Eikadistes January 5, 2025 at 11:43 AM

Pompeia Plotina

Threads: 3

Posts: 9

Last Posts: Empress Pompeia Plotina - Main Biography

Cassius November 22, 2023 at 7:12 AM

Pictures of Plotina

Cassius October 27, 2020 at 7:26 AM

Leontius and Themista of Lampsacus

Threads: 2

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Leonteus and Themista of Lampsacus - Main Biography

Bryan May 22, 2024 at 1:15 PM

Themista of Lampsacus

Don April 16, 2023 at 7:12 AM

Atticus (Titus Pomponius)

Threads: 2

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Cornelius Nepos' "Life of Atticus"

Cassius September 23, 2020 at 3:51 AM

Article - "Was Atticus An Epicurean?" [Gilbert]

Cassius March 11, 2020 at 8:00 AM

Phaedrus

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Phaedrus - General Info

Cassius September 22, 2020 at 2:31 PM

Gaius Julius Caesar

Threads: 3

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Caesar The Epicurean? A Matter of Life and Death - Volk 2022

Cassius January 16, 2025 at 9:54 AM

Epicurean Aspects of The Cataline Conspiracy And "Megalopolis"?

Cassius May 18, 2024 at 12:21 PM

Lorenzo Valla

Threads: 2

Posts: 3

Last Posts: Lorenzo Valla in the Index Librorum Prohibitorum

Joshua March 19, 2025 at 10:52 PM

On Pleasure / On The True and The False Good - Lorenzo Valla

Cassius August 14, 2020 at 2:20 PM

"Celsus"

The quotes are present because there is significant question as to whether the author of "The True Word" was an Epicurean or not. See the Wikipedia article for the possibility that Celsus the friend of Lucian was not the Celsus who wrote "The True Word" - given that the religious positions taken in "The True Word" do not appear consistent with Epicurean religious viewpoints.

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: General Bio of Celsus and the Possibility that the Celsus Who Wrote "The True Word" was not the Celsus who was friend of Lucian

Cassius August 23, 2023 at 5:22 PM

Julien Offray de la Mettrie

Threads: 6

Posts: 32

Last Posts: Julien Offray de la Mettrie in the Index Librorum Prohibitorum

Joshua March 19, 2025 at 11:15 PM

"D'Argens 'Sacrifices' Le Mettrie" - A posthumous attack on La Mettrie's Epicureanism

Charles May 25, 2020 at 7:34 PM

Cosma Raimondi

Threads: 2

Posts: 14

Last Posts: Reconciling Cosma Raimondi and Diogenes Laertius On the Bull of Phalaris Question

Cassius June 18, 2025 at 8:28 AM

Cosma Raimondi's Letter to Ambrogio Tignosi

TauPhi April 22, 2024 at 9:09 PM

Thomas Jefferson

Threads: 14

Posts: 92

Last Posts: Thomas Jefferson's Religious Beliefs

Kalosyni September 19, 2025 at 7:15 PM

Thomas Jefferson's Epicurean Outline

Cassius March 4, 2025 at 9:24 AM

Frances Wright

This subforum is for discussion of the life of Frances Wright. Her book "A Few Days In Athens" has its own forum.

Threads: 6

Posts: 44

Last Posts: Frances Wright

Cassius October 22, 2023 at 8:23 PM

Research Assistance on Frances Wright

Cassius April 19, 2022 at 9:13 AM

Search and Identification of Past Epicureans, Real or Fictional

This forum is for discussion of figures from history or literature about whom relatively little is known.

Threads: 20

Posts: 189

Last Posts: Early Epicurean Community - Listing of Known Epicureans Thoughout History

Bryan April 27, 2025 at 9:30 AM

Did the Ancient Epicureans Travel in Pairs?

Don March 29, 2025 at 4:09 PM

Pierre Gassendi

Threads: 6

Posts: 49

Last Posts: Francois Bernier's "Three Discourses of Happiness, Virtue, and Liberty." - digital reconstruction of the book

Cassius November 23, 2025 at 8:49 PM

Gassendi On Happiness

Don November 14, 2025 at 6:50 AM

Frederic Nietzsche

Threads: 11

Posts: 23

Last Posts: Collection of Nietzsche Quotes Relevant To Epicurean Philosophy

Cassius March 26, 2023 at 3:18 PM

Short Video on Nietzsche vs Plato On "True World Theory" Which May or May Not Reflect Epicurus' Views

Cassius December 13, 2022 at 9:51 AM

Frederick the Great

Threads: 3

Posts: 35

Last Posts: Psychology Today Article: "Frederick the Happy: The Old Fritz was an Epicurean."

Cassius August 26, 2019 at 12:59 PM

Frederick the Great's Statue Incorporating Lucretius Motif

Cassius March 25, 2019 at 10:28 AM

William Shakespeare - References Relevant to Epicurus

Threads: 4

Posts: 20

Last Posts: Shakespeare, Thomas North, and Plutarch

Joshua March 17, 2025 at 2:56 PM

Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar"

Bryan October 24, 2024 at 11:31 AM

Giordano Bruno

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Virgil

Happy is he who has the power to know the nature of things!

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Virgil's Reference To Lucretius in "The Georgics"

Joshua November 14, 2023 at 9:35 PM

Dimitri Liantinis

Threads: 2

Posts: 3

Last Posts: General Thread on Dimitri Liantinis

Cassius May 1, 2024 at 9:44 AM

"The Seven Dire Wounds" - Dimitri Liantinis - Translated by Elli Pensa

Cassius October 15, 2018 at 4:35 PM

Victor Stenger

Threads: 2

Posts: 10

Last Posts: Victor Stenger Resources

Cassius August 31, 2024 at 6:35 PM

God and the Atom by Victor Stenger: A Very Brief Review

Cassius February 22, 2020 at 2:34 AM

Pierre Gassendi

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Other Non-Epicureans

Threads: 15

Posts: 65

Last Posts: Eudoxus of Cnidus - Advocate of Pleasure Prior To Epicurus

TauPhi July 3, 2025 at 11:09 AM

Alexander Pope

Joshua March 20, 2025 at 9:31 PM

Gassendi

Place for discussion of the transcription and use of Pierre Gassendi and his Synopsis of Epicureanism contained in Book Three of Thomas Stanley's "History of Philosophy"

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Comparing Epicurus With Other Philosophers - General Discussion

Discussion comparing the views of Epicurus with opposing philosophers and religions.

Threads: 26

Posts: 152

Last Posts: Studies on Epicurus' Influence on Marx

DaveT October 21, 2025 at 9:33 AM

Anti-Natalism: The Opposite of Epicureanism

Adrastus October 9, 2025 at 5:12 AM

Major Arguments Against Epicurean Philosophy And Responses To Them

Philosophical Doctrines can be difficult or impossible to understand without knowledge of the question they are intended to address. Arguments against Pleasure at the time of Epicurus occur in Plato's Philebus, Protarchus, and Gorgias (and other writers) as referenced in Gosling & Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure." We can also find evidence of them in later works, such as Cicero's "On Ends." The purpose of this thread is to organize these arguments and discuss the Epicurean response to each.

Threads: 4

Posts: 15

Last Posts: Cicero's Argument That Epicureans Do Not Esteem Mental Pleasures

Cassius September 3, 2023 at 11:40 AM

Note on the Name "Philebus" As Used in Plato's "Philebus"

Elli October 24, 2019 at 5:12 PM

Epicurus vs. Pythagorus

Threads: 1

Posts: 4

Last Posts: Epicurus vs Pythagorus - General

Bryan January 30, 2025 at 9:06 PM

Epicurus vs. Aristipus And The Cyreniacs

Threads: 10

Posts: 83

Last Posts: "Habeo non Habeor" (Associated With Aristippus?)

Cassius August 22, 2025 at 8:10 AM

Cyreniac Differences With Epicurus (Primarily On Skepticism)

Cassius March 18, 2025 at 4:55 PM

Epicurus vs. Democritus And The Atomic Determinists

Threads: 2

Posts: 29

Last Posts: Did Democritus Think That Atoms Can Be Alive?

TauPhi August 25, 2025 at 7:08 PM

Democritus' "Nothing is truly real but atoms and void" statement

Cassius October 5, 2022 at 7:58 PM

Epicurus vs. the Stoics (Zeno, Chrysippus, Cleanthes, Epictetus, Seneca, Marcus Aurelius)

Threads: 43

Posts: 262

Last Posts: Beyond Stoicism (2025)

Don August 15, 2025 at 4:28 PM

Recent Article on Why Stoicism Remains So Popular (Vis-à-Vis Ancient Rivals)

Eikadistes January 27, 2025 at 10:15 AM

Epicurus vs. Plato and the Academics

Threads: 8

Posts: 49

Last Posts: Isaac Asimov's Essay "The Relativity of Wrong" (Including Criticism of Socrates And Considering Proper Standards of Correctness)

Martin August 30, 2024 at 10:52 AM

David Sedley on Plato's Forms / Universals / "One Over Many" Principle

Cassius January 10, 2022 at 8:22 AM

Epicurus vs Pantheism (SpInoza, Bruno, Et Al.)

Threads: 5

Posts: 16

Last Posts: Was Bruno An Epicurean Or A Pantheist?

Cassius April 11, 2025 at 11:01 AM

Epicurus vs. Pantheism (Spinoza Et Al.) - General

Cassius April 11, 2025 at 10:31 AM

Epicurus vs. Aristotle and The Peripatetics

Threads: 9

Posts: 179

Last Posts: Epicurus vs Aristotle: the Role of Reason vs Sensation Seeking?

Kalosyni December 11, 2025 at 3:07 PM

A Video on Artistotle's Views of Pleasure "Pleasure What's the Limit"

Kalosyni September 21, 2024 at 9:39 AM

Epicurus vs. Cicero and the Academic Skeptics (Arcesilaus, Carneades, and Philo)

Threads: 3

Posts: 8

Last Posts: Cicero’s Stoic Paradoxes - General

Cassius November 20, 2024 at 9:06 AM

Cicero's "Academic Questions"

Cassius November 18, 2024 at 2:46 PM

Epicurus vs. Pyrrho And The Skeptics

Threads: 1

Posts: 2

Last Posts: Ancient Greco-Roman Skepticism

Cassius August 31, 2023 at 10:31 AM

Epicurus vs. Plotinus and the Neo-Platonists

Threads: 1

Posts: 9

Last Posts: NeoPlatonism Basics Relevant to the Study of Epicurus

Eggplant Wizard January 10, 2024 at 12:54 PM

Epicurus vs. Buddha and the Buddhists

Threads: 5

Posts: 158

Last Posts: 2022 Epicurus vs Buddhism Compare and Contrast Thread

Eikadistes October 17, 2025 at 11:30 AM

Meditation and Epicurean Philosophy (?)

Cassius November 18, 2023 at 1:48 PM

Epicurus vs Abraham (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)

Threads: 19

Posts: 106

Last Posts: Ecclesiastes what insights can we gleam from it?

Kalosyni August 18, 2025 at 7:54 AM

New Blog Post From Elli - " Fanaticism and the Danger of Dogmatism in Political and Religious Thought: An Epicurean Reading"

Cassius June 20, 2025 at 4:31 PM

Epicurus vs. Bentham and Utilitarianism

Utilitarianism is generally considered to be "the greatest good for the greatest number." This forum is to compare Epicurus with the Utilitarians.

Threads: 4

Posts: 19

Last Posts: JAMES MILNE / MILL, Mentor of Frances Wright

Cassius May 14, 2020 at 3:57 PM

Overlaps and differences between EP and John Stuart Mill's version of utilitarianism

Elayne August 21, 2019 at 3:13 PM

Epicurus vs. Kierkegaard and Nihilism

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Epicurus vs. Kant and Humanism

Threads: 3

Posts: 53

Last Posts: Epicurean Philosophy Vs. Humanism

Cassius November 22, 2023 at 2:47 PM

Article: Nietzsche's Overcoming of Humanism - Kuldasi

Cassius September 14, 2021 at 11:27 AM

Epicurean Philosophy vs. Albert Camus and Absurdism

Threads: 1

Posts: 27

Last Posts: The Absurdity of Absurdism (?)

Cassius July 5, 2024 at 11:00 PM

Epicurean Philosophy vs. Sartre and Existentialism

Subforum devoted to distinguishing Epicurus from Existentialism / Nihilism

Threads: 2

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Nihilism and Turgenev's novel "Fathers and Sons"

Cassius April 20, 2023 at 6:32 AM

General / Opening - Comments on Existentialism / Nihilism

Mike Anyayahan January 4, 2020 at 12:50 AM

Epicurean Philosophy vs. "Scientism"

Threads: 5

Posts: 153

Last Posts: Epicureanism and Scientism: What are the main differences?

Kalosyni July 25, 2024 at 9:23 AM

The Scientism Subforum

Cassius July 20, 2024 at 9:48 AM

Notable Opponents of Epicurean Philosophy

Use this forum for discussions of people who denounced or opposed Epicurean philosophy.

Threads: 6

Posts: 23

Last Posts: Thomas More and his "Utopia"

Cassius September 1, 2023 at 8:00 PM

Posidonius - The Stoic Astrologer

Cassius August 29, 2023 at 10:02 AM

Epicurus vs David Hume

Threads: 0

Posts: 0

Epicurus vs Ayn Rand / Objectivism

Threads: 1

Posts: 3

Last Posts: Why And How Epicurus Would Disagree With Ayn Rand / Objectivism - General Thread

Cassius October 18, 2025 at 3:30 PM

Places of Interest to Epicurean History

Discussion of Places of Interest To Epicurean History and Philosophy

Threads: 19

Posts: 97

General Ancient Sites and Locations

Threads: 5

Posts: 37

Last Posts: Digital Model of Ancient Rome with Bernard Frischer

Cassius November 15, 2023 at 2:44 PM

The Temple of Venus Genetrix

Cassius August 29, 2023 at 10:06 AM

Samos, Greece

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Online Travel Videos of Samos

Kalosyni June 21, 2025 at 9:08 AM

Athens Greece

Threads: 2

Posts: 4

Last Posts: The Oath of the Ephebes

Joshua March 1, 2025 at 5:55 AM

Travel Video - Ancient Acropolis and Agora

Kalosyni April 20, 2023 at 5:35 PM

Oinoanda and Other Epicurean Sites in Asia Minor

Diogenes' wall has its own forum. This subforum is for discussion of other Epicurean historic aspects of Asia Minor

Threads: 1

Posts: 1

Last Posts: Video on the Inscription - "A Gigantic Jigsaw Puzzle"

Cassius July 14, 2020 at 10:00 AM

Herculaneum and Villa de Papyri (Physical Location)

This section is for posting on anything to do with the physical location, past or present. For postings on anything to do with the actual papyri scrolls, visit this section: https://www.epicureanfriends.com/board/680-herculaneum-villa-de-papyri-general-discussion/

Threads: 5

Posts: 24

Last Posts: A Video on the Preservation of Wood at Herculaneum

Don October 22, 2024 at 7:55 PM

Scroll Development Relating to Plato's Grave (Related to the Recent AI Work?)

Joshua April 25, 2024 at 10:10 AM

Pompeii General

Threads: 5

Posts: 30

Last Posts: Pompeii Then and Now

kochiekoch May 8, 2025 at 3:50 PM

Reopening of "House of the Bicentenary"

Godfrey June 5, 2024 at 7:34 PM

Historical Events Relevant to Epicurean Philosophy

Threads: 12

Posts: 83

Last Posts: "Christianizing the Roman Empire (A.D. 100-400)" Ramsay MacMullen, Yale UP, 1984

TauPhi July 29, 2025 at 9:25 PM

Video: "Why Ancient Christians Destroyed Greek Statues"

kochiekoch July 22, 2025 at 2:04 PM

Culture & Customs

Threads: 24

Posts: 178

Last Posts: Ancient Greek/Roman Customs, Culture, and Clothing

Kalosyni September 17, 2025 at 7:18 PM

Food and Medicine in the Time of the Epicureans in Ancient Greece and Rome

Pacatus August 21, 2025 at 3:04 PM

Epicurean Art / Symbolism - General Discussion

Use this for posting on Epicurean art related topics which do not already have a designated folder.

Threads: 8

Posts: 86

Last Posts: An Epicurus Tartan

Don November 11, 2025 at 4:24 PM

The Archaic Smile

Kalosyni October 9, 2025 at 2:17 PM

The "School of Athens" - By Raphael (1509 ce) - Where Is Epicurus?

Discussion of Raphael's "School of Athens" Fresco. The discussion started and goes into detail in the pinned thread. As it appears that this discussion will go on much longer, it is now moved to its own forum where threads may be extended to discuss additional details of Raphael and the figures in the fresco.

Click here to view the photo at Wikipedia

Threads: 10

Posts: 67

Last Posts: The Wreathed Figure In Blue - Epicurus? Democritus? Someone Else?

Cassius May 25, 2021 at 4:04 PM

"School of Athens" - The grouping to the right of center

Cassius May 24, 2021 at 8:18 PM

Iconography of Epicurus - Past and Present

Threads: 12

Posts: 200

Last Posts: Epicurean Rings / Jewelry / Coins / Mementos

Kalosyni May 25, 2025 at 8:37 AM

The Facial Expression of Epicurus

Cassius April 23, 2025 at 12:44 PM

Epicurean Art From Classical Antiquity

Epicurean Art from Classical Antiquity - including sculptures, mosaics, rings, cups, and other historical artifacts -- including reproductions, both Greek and Roman, and modern replicas.

Threads: 14

Posts: 145

Last Posts: Busts of Epicurus

Eikadistes August 28, 2025 at 8:48 AM

The "Leaping Pig" from Herculaneum (& modern iterations)

Eikadistes April 21, 2025 at 6:55 PM

Epicurean Art After Classical Antiquity

This is for discussion of modern art and anything after the 14th century, and which contains Epicurean philosophical themes.

Threads: 15

Posts: 88

Last Posts: Italian Artwork With Representtions of Epicurus

Cassius November 7, 2025 at 12:19 PM

Reproduction of Venus by Canova

Kalosyni August 6, 2025 at 3:22 PM

Bernard Frischer's "The Sculpted Word"

"Epicureanism and Philosophical Recruitment in Ancient Greece

Threads: 2

Posts: 5

Last Posts: "The Sculpted Word" - Cover and Excerpts

Joshua April 14, 2021 at 10:05 PM

Frischer (Bernard) - "The Sculpted Word"

Hiram April 28, 2017 at 1:46 PM

Video Projects (Archive)

Threads: 6

Posts: 82

Last Posts: Epicurean Video Production Thread (Especially Blender and Other Open Source Video Software)

Cassius May 3, 2023 at 9:09 AM

"You Have Been Deceived"

Cassius December 30, 2021 at 9:28 AM

Self-Paced Study Guides

Threads: 3

Posts: 5

Self-Paced Course - Introduction to the Philosophy of Epicurus

For those who are new to the study of Epicurus, we are providing a self-paced 7-week course which covers an introduction to the basics of Epicurean philosophy. Week 1 & Week 2 now has material posted which can get you started. More material will be posted in the future.

Threads: 3

Posts: 5

Last Posts: Overview & Syllabus: "Introduction to the Philosophy of Epicurus" (Self-paced Course)

Kalosyni March 24, 2025 at 12:12 PM

Week 1: Epicurus, the Garden, and the Extant Texts

Kalosyni March 24, 2025 at 10:01 AM

Old Projects (Archive)

Threads: 12

Posts: 34

The Epicurus Today Podcast

This project is not yet underway, but will be produced from recorded sessions of the Online Epicureanfriends meetings. The podcast will be structured around (1) a review of the Letter to Herodotus, followed by (2) a review of each of the Principal Doctrines and Vatican Sayings. As soon as we get a core group of people ready to participate regularly we will launch this project. Please indicate your interest in participation by posting in the threads below.

Threads: 3

Posts: 19

Last Posts: Draft Agenda For Online Meeting One To Be Turned Into An "Epicurus Today" podcast

Cassius January 29, 2020 at 9:28 PM

Naming Question

Cassius January 27, 2020 at 9:39 AM

Epicurean Radio

Epicurean Radio was set up in 2019 as a website to continuously live-stream episodes of the podcasts and other materials. With technology changes, as of February, 2020, it appears that these resources are better spent on podcasting and other on-demand materials. All material formerly available at Epicureanradio.com is now available through links in this forum. If and when Epicureanradio.com is reactivated, notice will be placed here.

Threads: 9

Posts: 15

Last Posts: Reorganizing Epicureanradio.com

Cassius February 15, 2020 at 10:30 AM

Audio Clip Index

Threads: 8

Posts: 14

Last Posts: Miris - by Constantine Cavafy - As Read By Elli

Don January 8, 2021 at 11:47 PM

Lucretius Book 5 - Opening - Brown 1743 - Cassius

Cassius November 25, 2018 at 11:31 AM

Archived Events

Threads: 120

Posts: 620

First Monday of the Month - New Member Meet-and-Greet Via Zoom

This meeting is a meet-and-greet, on the first Monday of every month, for our new (and newer) members - Please RSVP. Level 02 member please RSVP in the monthly or current meeting thread. If you are a Level 01 member please message the Admin if you are interested in attending.

Threads: 5

Posts: 24

Last Posts: November 3, 2025 - New Member Meet and Greet (First Monday Via Zoom 8pm ET)

Kalosyni November 3, 2025 at 1:20 PM

Sept. 1, 2025 - First Monday New Member Meet and Greet

Kalosyni September 1, 2025 at 9:17 AM

EpicureanFriends Livestreaming Events

Threads: 1

Posts: 12

Last Posts: January 19, 2025 - 1pm ET - "Applying Epicurus Accurately" Livestreaming Event

Kalosyni January 19, 2025 at 9:50 AM

ARCHIVED Postings (First Monday Epicurean Philosophy Hour Via Zoom)

On the first Monday of every month we host a special Meet-and-Greet for our forum members. If you are interested in attending the next one, please post to the thread for that exact date, or to the thread "Questions About Upcoming Events" in this forum, or message Cassius or Kalosyni.

Threads: 31

Posts: 172

Last Posts: May 5, 2025 - First Monday Epicurean Philosophy Zoom - Agenda

Kalosyni May 4, 2025 at 9:54 AM

April 7, 2025 - First Monday Epicurean Philosophy Zoom - Agenda

AxA April 9, 2025 at 5:36 PM

ARCHIVED Special EpicureanFriends Zoom Meeting

Threads: 1

Posts: 13

Last Posts: Special EpicureanFriends Zoom - April 27th, 12:30pm EDT

Don April 27, 2025 at 9:06 PM

ARCHIVED Special Time Zone Zoom Meeting - 20th Commemoration and Epicurean Philosophy Discussion

Threads: 1

Posts: 6

Last Posts: October 20, 2024 - Twentieth Commemoration and Epicurean Philosophy Discussion Zoom - Special Time Zone Meeting

Kalosyni October 10, 2024 at 2:49 PM

ARCHIVED Studying the Vatican Sayings - Wednesday Night Zoom (Past Event)

Threads: 38

Posts: 71

Last Posts: March 27, 2024 - Wednesday Night Zoom Agenda - VS 80 & 81

Kalosyni March 27, 2024 at 12:31 PM

March 13, 2024 - Wednesday Night Zoom Agenda - VS 78 & 79

Kalosyni March 13, 2024 at 1:18 PM

ARCHIVED Studying the Principal Doctrines - Wednesday Night Zoom (Past Event)

Threads: 29

Posts: 225

Last Posts: Wednesday Night Zoom Gathering Thread (Nov. 2022)

Cassius November 30, 2022 at 8:54 AM

November 2nd, 2022 - Wednesday Night Zoom Gathering

Cassius October 27, 2022 at 9:41 AM

ARCHIVED Sunday Night Book Review - "Living for Pleasure" - Via Zoom

In the spring of 2023 EpicureanFriends sponsored a weekly book review of "Living for Pleasure: an Epicurean Guide to Life" by Emily Austin. We were honored to have Ms. Austin herself participate with us in the final session. Watch the Activities forum for future similar programs.

Threads: 3

Posts: 52

Last Posts: "Living for Pleasure" Book Study Group - Starting April 30, 2023 - Via Zoom

Cassius October 13, 2024 at 6:49 PM

Questions for Emily Austin - "Living for Pleasure" Zoom Meeting June 4

Kalosyni May 31, 2023 at 1:22 PM

ARCHIVED A Few Days In Athens - Zoom Book Review

Threads: 11

Posts: 45

Last Posts: AFDIA Zoom Book Club Meeting. Final Session - Recap and Discussion of Article "Problems In Frances Wright's AFDIA" (Sun, May 22nd 2022, 8:00 am-8:00 pm)

Cassius April 23, 2022 at 1:20 PM

"A Few Days In Athens" Zoom Book Club Meeting. This week - Chapter Sixteen! (Sun, May 15th 2022, 8:00 pm-9:00 pm)

Cassius April 23, 2022 at 1:18 PM

Non - English (Archive)

Threads: 6

Posts: 14

Greek / Hellene

For Discussion of Epicurus in Greek

Threads: 1

Posts: 3

Last Posts: "The Epicurean Glance" - An Article By George Kaplanis which needs translation

Cassius November 18, 2018 at 5:15 PM

Spanish

For discussion about Epicurean philosophy in Spanish

Threads: 5

Posts: 11

Last Posts: Buenos libros sobre la filosofia epicurea en espanol

Titus January 12, 2021 at 12:21 PM

Traducción (captions) opcional disponible al español para video del canon

Hiram December 25, 2019 at 12:31 PM

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"Remember that you are mortal, and you have a limited time to live, and in devoting yourself to discussion of the nature of time and eternity you have seen things that have been, are now, and are to come."

This subforum is devoted to the Principal Doctrines of Epicurus. Please note:

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