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New Graphics: Are You On Team Epicurus? | Comparison Chart: Epicurus vs. Other Philosophies | Chart Of Key Epicurean Quotations | Accelerating Study Of Canonics Through Philodemus' "On Methods Of Inference" | Note to all users: If you have a problem posting in any forum, please message Cassius  

  • Welcome ReiWolfWoman!

    • Martin
    • April 10, 2026 at 1:50 AM

    Welcome ReiWolfWoman!

  • How to argue against the Kalam Cosmological Argument?

    • Martin
    • April 8, 2026 at 3:01 AM
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    Here’s a good video I recommend everyone watch

    No, it is a bad video which you should not waste your time to watch (unless you are into refuting nonsense statements on mathematics and reality.) Moreover, it is far out of the scope of our site.
    Steve Patterson presents a string of truthful statements mixed in with nonsense. Among other falsities, he makes the claim that his mathematical nonsense proves something on our reality, like Plato. Mathematics is a useful tool to describe reality but not the other way round, that mathematics prescribes reality. That is already enough to refute the Kalam cosmological argument as well.
    Where can I reimburse the 14 minutes which I wasted on that video?

  • Welcome Lamar!

    • Martin
    • April 4, 2026 at 12:17 PM

    Welcome Lamar!

  • Revisiting Issues of The Use of AI in Epicurean Philosophy

    • Martin
    • April 2, 2026 at 1:52 PM
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    just like Lucretius and Diogenes of Oinoanda and many others let the size of the job stop them from what they accomplished

    should be "just like Lucretius and Diogenes of Oinoanda and many others let the size of the job not stop them from what they accomplished".

  • Discussion of Blog Article - "Reality Does Not Require Being Eternally The Same"

    • Martin
    • April 2, 2026 at 6:08 AM

    Those are incorrect. Whereas Plato's school apparently degenerated into plain skepticism, Kant's version of idealism was not that skeptic. Within Kant's epistemology, certainty with respect to knowledge about phenomena is possible but the metaphysical claim that that knowledge is the truth about how things actually are is unfounded. Moreover, Kant's epistemology can be restated in a materialistic framework. Therefore, the classification of Kant as an idealist is not relevant in this discussion.
    With trivial matters, the distinction between knowledge about phenomena and how things actually are does not matter: When I am hungry, I eat, then feel full.
    The distinction matters when we want to get a deeper understanding or when knowledge expands.
    Maybe this example can clarify this:
    If we kick a stone resting on Earth into motion on a horizontal surface, its speed will gradually decline and eventually stop. A simple theory can be stated that the natural state of non-living heavy things on Earth is to be at rest, and after they have been forced into motion, they gradually relax into their natural state of rest. (Aristotle came up with something similar to that). At that stage, people might have thought that the simple theory is the truth about how things actually are. Until a few hundred years ago, there was no experimental setup which could refute that theory. Even today, we could still use that simple (but ontologically wrong) theory for accurate solutions of engineering problems in cases which stay within its limitations. Newton had no way to experimentally refute it when he came up with a more general theory of mechanics of which the first "axiom" contradicts that simple theory. His theory was quickly accepted because it could explain more phenomena and at a deeper level. At that stage, people might have thought that Newton's theory is the truth about how things actually are. However, they had no superior knowledge from which they could justify that thought. Later, we found out that Newton's theory fails when high speeds are involved, contradicts electrodynamics and needs to be replaced by Einstein's special theory of relativity to resolve these issues. We might think that now, Einstein's special theory of relativity is the truth about how things actually are. But again, there is no superior knowledge from where we could justify that thought.

  • Discussion of Blog Article - "Reality Does Not Require Being Eternally The Same"

    • Martin
    • April 1, 2026 at 11:38 AM

    It is exactly that sentence ("On one side stands a tradition stretching from Plato...") which is false because Kant rejected dogmatism and did not reject the senses. In Kant's view, we know about the world through the senses. His epistemology examines how we make sense out of the input of the senses. That sentence is false with respect to modern academic philosophy, too, and maybe even with respect to some Stoics.
    A correct revision could be:
    "On one side stands a tradition stretching from Plato through medieval theology into much of modern religion: the view that what is genuinely real must be eternal, unchanging, and accessible not through the senses but through some higher faculty — pure reason, divine revelation, or the intellectual intuition of necessary truths."

    In this context: The article is excellent with respect to Plato and Epicurus. My own position is that Epicurus extreme affirmation on the real world made sense at his time as opposition to Plato's nonsense, but it is obsolete now, thanks to Kant and others. As this forum is focused on authentic Epicurean philosophy I refrain from elaborating on my heretic view here.

  • Discussion of Blog Article - "Reality Does Not Require Being Eternally The Same"

    • Martin
    • March 31, 2026 at 12:45 PM

    It should be made clear that the article is rather against Plato's idealism. Putting Kant in the same bucket as Plato is wrong because Kant removed the ideal forms and Plato's nonsense that reality is truthfully revealed only by the logic of philosophers like Plato. There are other issues with the text but just removing Kant from the text would already improve the credibility.

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    • March 27, 2026 at 1:42 AM

    Welcome J.Tycherne!

  • Epicurus vs Kant and Modern Idealism - Introduction

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    • March 22, 2026 at 9:57 AM
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    Would a Kantian take the position that it is not true that there are no supernatural gods, not true that there is no life after death, and not true that pleasure is the guide of life?

    Kant himself does take these positions. However, later Kantians may differ. I am an Epicurean, not a Kantian. My reference to being "Kantian" is limited to him as being named as the original source of the distinction between a model and truth. He used different terminology and an idealistic framework. Others reformulated his epistemology within materialism. Other than that and his version of the golden rule, I do not know much about other aspects of his philosophy. I have read very little from Kant himself but more from those who refer to him.

    I found two references for dummies on Kant's epistemology and one reference for professionals. Although the one frome Nature has been created with A.I. (which I usually would not want to read or share) I have to concede that it is convincing and easy to understand. The second reference is riddled with mistakes but seems to correctly present Kant's epistemology. The third one is mostly above my league:

    Kantian Philosophy and Epistemology | Nature Research Intelligence

    https://yohanesnuwara.medium.com/the-epistemology-of-immanuel-kant-5e5e7fbd1e48

    Kant’s Ongoing Relevance for Philosophy of Science | Kantian Review | Cambridge Core
    Kant’s Ongoing Relevance for Philosophy of Science - Volume 28 Issue 3
    www.cambridge.org
  • Epicurus vs Kant and Modern Idealism - Introduction

    • Martin
    • March 22, 2026 at 2:56 AM

    The rejection of both plain rationalism and plain empiricism is an overlap between Epicurus and Kant.
    Kant replaced them with a unified epistemology drawing from parts of both of them. Based on his new approach to epistemology, scientists usually present their theories as models of reality instead of truth on reality.
    Epicurus replaced rationalism and empiricism with another unified epistemology within which the most basic theories still claim truth on reality. This claim is an unproven belief which is akin to religion and Platonism and not necessary for a materialist world view.
    A philosophy which rejects Plato's idealism more profoundly and does not make superfluous claims on truth is more convincing. Under this aspect, my choice is Kantian instead of Epicurean.

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    • March 10, 2026 at 8:44 PM

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  • Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!)

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    Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus!

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    • February 6, 2026 at 1:26 AM

    Welcome Hania!

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    Welcome Martijn!

  • How the Epicureans might have predicted Lorentz time dilation

    • Martin
    • February 4, 2026 at 11:21 AM

    I started a conversation between us.

    For now, I see the isotacheian model as something complementary, e.g. as an exercise for students, but not as an alternative way of teaching special relativity.

  • Alexa in the Garden of Epicurus

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    • February 2, 2026 at 1:40 AM
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    Would you try California’s fastest zip lines?

    Yes!

  • How the Epicureans might have predicted Lorentz time dilation

    • Martin
    • January 20, 2026 at 9:37 AM

    Whereas the analogy with the Lorentz transform is valid, the math and some other details might need further correction. I expect to dedicate some time slots with sufficient ability to concentrate to figure this out soon. Depending on what I come up with, I will write it here or in a private message. Regarding the normalization and Entailment 2 (where I got stuck the last time I worked on the paper), a video call might be good. (Teams or Zoom work well for me).

  • Guilty conscience in Epicurean justice.

    • Martin
    • January 8, 2026 at 6:31 AM

    From an Epicurean perspective, a guilty conscience may be considered a preconception if it has arisen from socialization in one's group and not from religious indoctrination. Such a preconception may be more efficient than fear of punishment.

  • Welcome Claire46!

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    • January 6, 2026 at 9:29 AM

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