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    • March 28, 2025 at 4:54 PM
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    Until I set up a separate thread I'll continue to post here updates on getting a side-by-side version of Lucretius.

    At present I now have all of book one available in Latin, Dunster, Munro, and Bailey here:

    Side By Side viewer

    There will be lots of typos during the process of getting a workable version up and I'll correct them in waves as I make progress on each book.

    I have been debating whether to separate these into six separate files, out of concern that the file size would slow down the rendering, but at present things are still pretty snappy so I'll go for getting them all in one file, and that will make word searching a lot easier.

    Another place I am sure there will be errors is cross-matching the beginning of each english section with the correct section in Latin.

    the problem is that the sections (by approximate line number) are pretty arbitrary, and in order to get this done I'm going pretty fast and that makes it harder to be certain that I'm finding the right latin section (since my Latin isn't superb in the first place).

    If anyone sees any obvious mismatches please let me know and I'll correct them.

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    • March 28, 2025 at 6:50 PM
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    This looks beautiful! There is an insignificant font disparity at 1-859 and 1-998, but the text is correctly matched.


    One mismatch here:

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    • March 28, 2025 at 10:28 PM
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    EXCELLENT! This is a fantastic resource.

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    • March 29, 2025 at 9:26 PM
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    I made a lot of progress today and completed the "coding" I needed for all six books, but when I loaded them into github the site now seems to choke with a 'loading' message.

    May have to split them up by book to make it workable but if someone checks the site for the time being that's the reason it's not working.

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    • March 30, 2025 at 4:34 PM
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    Well I've run into a situation that the code from github is choking whenever I exceed a certain size limit, so there's no way I can get more than two translations side by side at a time.

    I might play further with the github code, but I think in the meantime I'm going to go with pure html (courtesy of Chatgpt) and be satisfied for the moment with this version:

    Markdown Side-by-Side


    It's not as polished as the other version and has lots of quirks to work out.

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    • March 30, 2025 at 7:32 PM
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    Nice!

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    Today I have made some significant improvements to the operation of the side-by-side Lucretius.

    I know there are many rough edges, but if anyone has suggestions or comments please be sure to let me know and I will see what I can do!

    Lucretius Side-by-Side

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    • March 31, 2025 at 6:18 PM
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    This is an exceptional resource. I'm sharing links on my hosted Munro pages. I'm looking forward to the other books as well! This sort of tool really is invaluable in becoming familiar with the language.

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    • March 31, 2025 at 7:41 PM
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    Eikadistes I am not sure whether you saw today's version or not, but I think I now have it fairly stable and I don't intend drastic revisions that would jeopoardize the current functionality.

    I have all six books of the Latin, Bailey, Dunster, and Munro all selectable so you can view any combination of them or them all.

    When you click in the left column to go to a section, the URL updates so that if you then share the URL, then paste it into another browser, then the page will open to the right section.

    I'd like to implement true synchronized scrolling like the other software had, but that's proving to be a problem, and as it is, it's set up so that if you click on the left bar then all of the columns do move the selected line number to the top of the page, where they are even. If you then use the left and right arrows in the center of the header, you can move forward and backward with the section you're looking for moved to the top of the screen where they are aligned.

    So this is the version I expect to use for a while, and now most of my effort will probably be devoted to cleaning up final artifacts in the text.

    I debated whether I should remove the line breaks from the Latin version, but I gather that knowing where the lines end does carry with it some degree of information, so rather than delete those I'm leaving the lines in poem form -- at least for now.

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