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    • February 25, 2025 at 9:22 AM
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    Welcome yankee

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

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    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be most assured of your time here being productive is to tell us a little about yourself and your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you have which would help us make sure that your questions and thoughts are addressed.

    Please check out our Getting Started page.

    We have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read. Feel free to join in on one or more of our conversation threads under various topics found throughout the forum, where you can to ask questions or to add in any of your insights as you study the Epicurean philosophy.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    The long and circuitous journey I’ve taken to get here began in the early summer of 1978 when I was at a picnic with my family in Upstate New York. I was eighteen having just graduated high school. My three year old niece had to be escorted to a rest room which was some distance away and the job was given to me.

    I decided to take a shortcut (something I’m always keen to do) through a field of dandelions in full bloom. As we walked, the flowers seemed to take to the air and fly away, startling us. I noticed the dandelions - at least most of them - weren’t dandelions at all, but birds! Specifically, they were American Goldfinch in resplendent breeding plumage. I looked down at my niece and she was applauding with her mouth open in amazement.

    Something changed in me that day - something woke up that had been sleeping. There was more to life than deciding what to major in at college, watching TV and hoping for early retirement.

    A mentor who lived next door and had been advising me in my academic and career decisions had helped me to understand I was a man of rationality and logic as he was, which was something no one had ever seen in me before - including me. He encouraged me to take a vocational aptitude test to see for myself and his suspicions were confirmed. The test said my best chances for being satisfied in a job was to become either a Systems Analyst, Computer Programmer or an Insurance Actuary. Not exactly the Stand Up Comedian I was hoping for, but there you go…

    Ok, I was logical - like the Supertramp song released that year lamented we were all becoming. But, I wanted more than just a label and a career. I wanted to understand life! Tall order.

    I started with Ralph Waldo Emerson as I was an avid nature nut like him. I learned much from him over the next couple decades but kept looking. I studied platonism, Spinoza, Thomas Paine, Existentialism, and I have attended a church from every denomination from Quaker to Roman Catholic to Mennonite at least once. I never found anything that resonated with me as much as Epicurean philosophy.

    Perhaps after all these years I’m just philosophically exhausted and need a place to rest. We shall see.

    Yours Truly

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    • February 25, 2025 at 12:47 PM
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    Welcome Ken!

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    Welcome aboard, Ken ( yankee )!

    I'm celebrating my 5th year on the forum today. Supportive, curious group here.

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    • February 25, 2025 at 4:20 PM
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    yankee Welcome to the forum!

    You might enjoy this introductory video:

    And this one is a more recent one with a longer list of key points:

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    • February 26, 2025 at 8:11 PM
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    Welcome Ken!

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    Thanks for all the welcomes. I enjoyed the videos very much.

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