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    Welcome Eric

    Please check out our Getting Started page, but in the meantime there is one last step to complete your registration:

    All new registrants must post a response to this message here in this welcome thread (we do this in order to minimize spam registrations).

    You must post your response within 72 hours, or your account will be subject to deletion.

    Please say "Hello" by introducing yourself, tell us what prompted your interest in Epicureanism and which particular aspects of Epicureanism most interest you, and/or post a question.

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    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match some Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from other viewpoints, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit by our community of happy living through the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be most assured of your time here being productive is to tell us a little about yourself and personal your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you have which would help us make sure that your questions and thoughts are addressed.

    In that regard we have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read. Feel free to join in on one or more of our conversation threads under various topics found throughout the forum, where you can to ask questions or to add in any of your insights as you study the Epicurean philosophy.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    Hello and thank you for welcoming me!

    I am Eric (not real name) from Finland. I do not have formal background in philosophy but I have always been the thinking type and interested in how the world works. I have a university education and job in the field of natural sciences.

    I discovered Epicureanism around 2019 when I learned that I had an addiction, became sober, and started to really think about how I should live my life and why. Before that I had been repeatedly dissatisfied with the answers to philosophical questions and lost interested in what others had to say. Furthermore I didn't have the intellectual capacity or motivation to pursue philosophy because my addiction held those qualities down.

    Since then Epicureanism has been the only philosophy that makes significant logical sense to me. Some things in Epicurean Metaphysics and Epistemology I find hard to be convinced of as absolute truths but for practical purposes I try to conduct my life as if they were true. Perhaps here I can find a better understanding of these, but it doesn't really matter to me if this does not happen. I am content with being a practical Epicurean and I am most interested in Epicurean ethics. Maybe I can learn and contribute at least in that field.

    I had been meaning to join an epicurean community online since 2020, but I didn't for some reason find this site back then and the one I did find didn't feel right for me at the time and still doesn't. I have substituted my need for friendship by romantic relationships, non-candid non-Epicurean friendships and living in intentional communities I do not believe the values of. I didn't disclose what I really believe in out fear of persecution (except in my romantic relationships).

    Currently I live with my non-epicurean girlfriend and do not feel lonely. However, I seem to keep returning to the idea that I want to find epicurean friends. Maybe by participating here I can finally feel like I am with the right people. So far based on the foundational documents of this site, I think I am in the right place.

    Looking forward to our discussions!

    -Eric

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    Thank you for that introduction Eric! Welcome to the forum and we look forward to hearing more from you.

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    Welcome to the forum Eric !

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    • September 12, 2024 at 8:47 PM
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    Welcome aboard, Eric! I think you'll find this a welcoming community. I, too, tend not to "proclaim" my Epicureanism much outside this forum, other than to occasionally mention topics to my wife in general conversation on walks or while enjoying time at a local brewery. This is a great outlet for discussion, research, questions, etc.

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    Welcome Eric!

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    Hey,

    I have read most of the main texts to get a better view of Epicureanism, and have also browsed the forums for various discussions that contain topics which interest me. I feel like after reading these I don't really have anything new to contribute, and the various forum members have said what I might have said much better than I could have.

    So I feel I would like to move on, at least for now.

    Thank you so much for providing this massive resource! It definitely challenged my understanding based on the more popular modern interpretation of Epicureanism. It was nice to meet many of you via the Zoom meetings.

    Best wishes,

    Eric

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    Thank you for letting us know Eric. Good luck to you and drop in anytime!

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    The gate to the garden is always open, Eric. Stop back anytime!

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