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    • June 18, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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    Oh Darn I bet I made the same mistake as before - I did not "Enable" it. Be right back.

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    • June 18, 2024 at 10:32 AM
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    That was the problem. You'll see it now. Yes it was the box that had the "Remember..... quote and said 'Welcome Back (username)." That has been turned off for that customized theme so you only see the logo / navigation bar at top.

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    • June 18, 2024 at 10:47 AM
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    However, it never bothered me, because I enter the forums through a bookmark directly to https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/notification-list/ so that I can see what I've missed and take things from there.

    Yes, I think we want to encourage people to bookmark either the notification list (lists the updates in short form) or the "Recent Activities" page (gives a brief summary of the update) or the Dashboard (pretty much the same as "Recent Activities, but gives a selection of latest graphics etc from other areas of the forum.

    The "Home" Page will not change much over time, and so it doesn't make sense for regular users to start on that one. However it's the place that new people googling will find first, so it makes sense to have the Welcome video and other sample material there.

    I am sure at some point we'll also move the bulk of the long essay on Pleasure to a separate page, but it's a recent addition, and it's targeted to address the number one issue that distinguishes "some Epicureans" from "other Epicureans." I think it's important for people to realize that up front, so for the time being we'll try it out and see what happens.

    I really expect the welcome video (and associated Welcome page) added this past weekend will constitute what most people will check out first. [ Underneath the video it says Click here for Self-Paced Slides of the above presentation, or here for the Welcome Page with the text of the narration. ]

    No doubt we'll continue to tweak that front page a lot, but regular users definitely should bookmark one of the other pages as the best way to check in on the forum.

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    • June 18, 2024 at 10:49 AM
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    That works well! I think it is a good idea.

    Downside: It has no "dark theme" option (the toggle for light/dark in the menu doesn't do anything), and it isn't handled well by the Dark Reader add-on (the black-to-white gradient in the background stays as-is). If a "dark" color scheme were added to solve that (which could simply use the same dark background as the "Inspire Light Garden" theme), then I'd be persuaded :) until then I'll stick to "Inspire Light Garden" with Dark Reader.

    Both screenshots taken with Dark Reader enabled. Upper: Default theme without welcome box. Lower: "Inspire Light Garden".

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    • June 18, 2024 at 10:55 AM
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    Thank you! The theme developer tells me he is working on an update to the Inspire theme that will have a native dark mode, so as soon as that's released we'll get it installed and update all the Inspire variations to allow them in either dark or light.

    Ah - also you pointed out to me that "the light-dark toggle doesn't do anything." very good point I had not noticed that aspect. That "Eye" icon is not really a light-dark toggle, but rather a toggle that, when used with the full Inspire theme with Welcome Box, toggles the Welcome box from a "Welcome" message over to a User Control Panel that shows a series of data points about the Users posts. When the Welcome box is turned off, that toggle then doesn't do anything.

    I am going to go over right now and cajole the developer to see if he will turn that Eyeball into a light-dark toggle in the next theme update. I'll have to practice how to say "Danke" or "Danke shein(?)" cause he's German too.

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    • June 18, 2024 at 11:00 AM
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    or the Dashboard (pretty much the same as "Recent Activities, but gives a selection of latest graphics etc from other areas of the forum.

    For articles, files, and gallery, I use the RSS feed, but I realise that fewer people nowadays use those, so the Dashboard does seem handy.

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    I really expect the welcome video (and associated Welcome page) added this past weekend will constitute what most people will check out first. [ Underneath the video it says Click here for Self-Paced Slides of the above presentation, or here for the Welcome Page with the text of the narration. ]

    Yes. When I think back, if the only option I'd have had to make first contact with Epicurean Philosophy were a wall of text, I'd have said "Oi, no!" instead of saying "Oinoanda!" ^^ If the forums are the hook, it's front page must be the bait, and our monkey brains love going to sponge-mode, being told how things are (rather than having to think for themselves; evolution made geared us towards energy efficiency), plus getting that dopamine trickle from a few pleasingly moving pixels (as in the video). The video is very important to lower the threshold.

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    regular users definitely should bookmark one of the other pages as the best way to check in on the forum.

    I agree.

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    That "Eye" icon is not really a light-dark toggle

    I meant the "Preferred Color Scheme" (which is probably what you called "native dark mode"). I don't think I ever used that eye toggle up there, but what it switches to (statistics about myself) seems kind of…odd. Not sure what the value in that could be.

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    I am going to go over right now and cajole the developer to see if he will turn that Eyeball into a light-dark toggle in the next theme update.

    Now that would be most excellent!

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    I'll have to practice how to say "Danke"

    "Dangke schee!" in Pennsylvania Dutch, "Merssi viumau!" in Alemannic, "Villmools Merci!" in Luxembourgish, and – drum roll! – "Danke schön!" in German. An approximate way to pronounce that would be to say "done-KE Shane", with "done" as in completed, "KE" as in baker, and "Shane" as in as in the George Stevens western. I'm sure the Internet can explain that better than I just did

    Edited once, last by Julia (June 18, 2024 at 11:27 AM).

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    • June 18, 2024 at 11:12 AM
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    OK I just expanded my knowledge of CSS, and the Eyeball icon on the "Default Style Without Welcome Box" is now gone, so no more confusion about that.

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