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    Yesterday we had a failed attempt to upgrade to the latest software package that runs the forum, and unfortunately several posts were lost. We're back up now and running normally, and this time I will take additional precautions to schedule this at a time of low usage and to ensure data is not in jeopardy.

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    • December 29, 2023 at 8:35 AM
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    So it seems right now (today 12-19-23) if anyone posts that it could be lost if the system crashes again? I just posted something :/... I can copy (save on my system) what I posted just in case. Probably best to refrain from posting like Cassius requested in the orange boxed notification (which I didn't see till after posting).

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    Yes posts made before the upgrade goes through may be lost. We should be back to full operation for new posts by noon at the latest. As soon as the upgrade is complete I will remove the "maintenance" notice from the top of the page.

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    The posts lost yesterday may have been by the following members:

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    There are LOTS of changes, to say the least, that we will need to work through.

    One immediate downside especially for Eikadistes is that it looks like we lost the "BOOKMARK" function. I am still exploring whether we can get that back Nate!

    We also lost the FAQ formatting from the older version. Until we can set that up again, the old FAQ material is available in a separate page.

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    • December 29, 2023 at 2:49 PM
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    At the moment there are only two STYLES, but hopefully they will cover most uses. There is a LIGHT style and a DARK style --- change it by going to the bottom right of a page where you will see:


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    Cassius, I think the upgrade is quite spectacular!!! It may take a little time to get used to the new changes, but the interface looks much more modern now.

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    • December 29, 2023 at 3:13 PM
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    Here's an example of a change. You'll note that some of the old editing functions are under the ... (three dot dropdown). They've replaced the color editor with "highlights" such as here:


    You'll note that when you drop down you first get a "paragraph" choice for headers or normal text, and then TO THE RIGHT you'll see several other options that are also below the main editor line, and that's where the "highlighter" is. I totally missed seeing those the first time through.

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    Eikadistes it does look like the Bookmarks feature will come back, and hopefully if you have some stored those will come back too.

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    Here's a feature I can imagine several of you liking: "PERSONAL NOTES"

    Click under the Tools / Personal Notes top menu, or under the User icon/dropdown "Personal Notes" and it will take you to a page where you can keep a list of frequently used notes or text blurbs for easy reuse and pasting into new threads

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    Ongoing fixes;


    • The Home Page contains an out-of-date description of available styles that will need to be updated.
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    • The browser tab icon, called a favicon, no longer shows a stylized bust of Epicurus.
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    There appears to be better Unicode support on mobile. I have no idea if this is client-side or server-side, it's possible I only noticed it because of the update.

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    • December 29, 2023 at 5:07 PM
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    Thank you Joshua - we will get this fixed tonight!

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    • December 29, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    All of my poems (and those of others as well it seems) lost their formatting. I went through and fixed mine. We'll see what happens when new ones come up. :)

    "We must try to make the end of the journey better than the beginning, as long as we are journeying; but when we come to the end, we must be happy and content." (Vatican Saying 48)

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    • December 29, 2023 at 6:01 PM
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    All of my poems (and those of others as well it seems) lost their formatting. I went through and fixed mine. We'll see what happens when new ones come up. :)

    Oh no! I didn't notice one of them before you fixed them - if you see a sample that is not formatted correctly let me know so I can think about the implications. Perhaps line feeds were converted to hard paragraphs, or what?

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    • December 29, 2023 at 6:04 PM
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    Cassius Single spaced lines all became double spaced. I copy-paste the poems here from Word, putting them in Arial font because others used to cause some issues, as I recall. I've kind of learned what works for copy-pasting -- if I have to adjust in the future, I'll figure it out. Not a big deal really. :)

    "We must try to make the end of the journey better than the beginning, as long as we are journeying; but when we come to the end, we must be happy and content." (Vatican Saying 48)

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    • December 29, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    Woltab wrote a long article about the reasoning behind the changes to the text editor. You or anyone who uses formatting intensively may want to read this to understand the rationale and how this is supposed to help make it easier to move between programs and software:


    New Features in WoltLab Suite 6.0: CKEditor 5 - WoltLab®
    The third part on what’s new in WoltLab Suite 6.0 focused on the new WYSIWYG editor “CKEditor 5”.
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    All in all, I like the new look! :thumbup: :)

    "We must try to make the end of the journey better than the beginning, as long as we are journeying; but when we come to the end, we must be happy and content." (Vatican Saying 48)

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    The forum logo no longer appears at the top of the Home Page on mobile.

    I'm seeing the logo. Using an Android (Pixel 6) and a DuckDuckGo browser. See image.

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    I'm seeing the logo. Using an Android (Pixel 6) and a DuckDuckGo browser. See image.

    Cassius was fast with the fixes! The favicon is back up as well.

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