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    • February 23, 2023 at 2:12 PM
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    This is a very good (and long) article which covers the ever evolving science and research going into understanding depression -- and also a possible role of inflammation in depression, which can come through an number of causes, including viral (such as Covid-19 inflammation).

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    Depression has often been blamed on low levels of serotonin in the brain. That answer is insufficient, but alternatives are coming into view and changing our understanding of the disease

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-cause-of-depression-is-probably-not-what-you-think-20230126/

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    • February 23, 2023 at 2:41 PM
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    I have been subjectively trying to convey this to my psychiatrists for years.

    I call that old model the "Paint Bucket" model (that's just me). In the "Paint Bucket" model, the healthy brain is a perfect shade of purple, equal parts red (mania) and blue (depression). If you have too much of one color, you need to balance it out with the other color, thus, serotonin and dopamine seem to be the primary neurotransmitters psychiatrists try to regulate with the use of medication that specifically affects the "color" of your mind.

    This is really limiting.

    Take me. I have Bipolar I (manic-heavy side of BP), and they tend to treat me with things that counter-act mania, so, they try to eliminate insomnia, intrusive thoughts, obsessive behaviors, etc. Overall, the basic mood stabilization is a good place to start. It keeps me from passing a red line that leads to dangerous, physically-harmful behavior.

    That's just a fraction of the story. The average Bipolar brain (in addition to people with Major Depressive Disorder) tend to have enlarged amygdalas, which manage emotions. That means anyone with a mood disorder (regardless of serotonin and dopamine levels) is more emotionally reactive and more emotionally affective. We get more emotional faster, we stay emotional longer, and it takes longer to return to a baseline. Medication cannot change the fact that I have a larger amygdala. Bipolar patients also tend to uniquely possess smaller-than-average pre-frontal cortecies, so while those of us with the stereotypical and ancient "Melancholic" personality exhibit brilliant phases of creativity and achievement, the shrunken pre-frontal cortex leads to a hinderance on a Bipolar patient's ability to clearly identify cause-and-effect, to make healthy, long-term plans, and to minimize risky-taking behaviors. Again, anti-depressants, mood-stabilizers, benzodiazepines, and even cannabinoids don't really address that issue. The closest treatment we provide to physically altering the structure of the brain is a lobotomy, and it is h-o-r-r-i-f-i-c.

    Psychotherapy is needed to help patients ... learn to work with their limitations (and unique advantages). But even then, a supportive environment is crucial. Birds need sky, fish need lakes, basketball players need hoops, and Bipolar patients need friends with a LOT of patience and strong senses of self. Being surrounded by enemies can make the other treatments so ineffective that the patient begins wondering if there is any hope at all. And there is. Quite a lot.

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    • February 23, 2023 at 3:49 PM
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    Thank you Eikadistes for sharing. Many people who have deeper or longer depression will need the help of a therapist or psychiatrist.

    And also there is important benefits for everyone, in finding supportive community and friends. Eventually I hope to have a handbook for people to start their own meetings in their own cities, as a way for people to find like-minded friends. Because friendship can be so healing.

  • Kalosyni March 8, 2023 at 10:17 AM

    Moved the thread from forum Dealing With Depression to forum Dealing With Anxiety or Depression.
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    The link between inflammation and depression is intriguing and could open up new avenues for treatment and management. It's a reminder of how interconnected our physical and mental health are, and the importance of taking a holistic approach to healthcare.

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    Thanks for that comment @BraydonKing and welcome to the forum! There's a new Welcome thread posted for you...please take a moment to introduce yourself. (You can find that thread here).

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    The link between inflammation and depression is intriguing and could open up new avenues for treatment and management. It's a reminder of how interconnected our physical and mental health are, and the importance of taking a holistic approach to healthcare.

    For anyone interested in exploring this further, the article on Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) on Mental Health provides a comprehensive overview of the condition, its symptoms, causes, and treatment options. It highlights the importance of early intervention and the various therapies that can be effective in managing OCD, including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP).

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