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Epicurean mosaics in Autun - France

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    • April 14, 2022 at 10:35 AM
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    Today I visited the Epicurean mosaics in Autun - France at the Rolin museum. It feels very close to Epicurus and Metrodorus.

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    • April 14, 2022 at 10:37 AM
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    I looked for the house where the mosaics were found. Next to it is now a private garden: 'Le Jardin'.

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    • April 14, 2022 at 10:41 AM
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    The Mosaic of the Greek Philosophers in Autun - Mosaic Blues
    The mosaic of the Greek Philosophers decorated the floor of a wealthy Galllo Roman villa of Augustodunum, capital of the Edui Gallic tribe.
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    • April 14, 2022 at 10:43 AM
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    The garden.

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    • April 15, 2022 at 6:00 AM
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    I realized this thread dovetails with our discussion on this thread regarding the Celts and Gauls since these mosaics are in a Gallo-Roman villa.

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    Let's not sell the Gauls short. Take a look at the Gallo-Roman city of Nimes and its preserved colosseum and temple.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%AEmes?wprov=sfla1

    The Gauls weren't all Asterix and Obelix (although I have a soft spot for them as well as the historical Vercingetorix himself)
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    • April 15, 2022 at 7:12 AM
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    Thank you for these great photos Marco!

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    • April 15, 2022 at 9:33 AM
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    Some additional photos of the Roman Autun, to have an impression of the environment in which the Epicurean community lived.

    The ruin that is named after the god Janus (but that is not correct).

    The city walls with gates.

    The amphitheatre. The largest amphitheatre in the Roman Empire. The seats came up to the current treetops.

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    • April 15, 2022 at 12:02 PM
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    A Googel translation of the French text in the museum.

    The image of Epicurus is itself almost as incomplete as the text. He sits on a seat of which we have no trace but we can restore with plausibility a throne with feet in lion's feet. The philosopher is dressed in a white coat, a tight section of which passes in front of the left shoulder to fall next to the knee. The left hand, raised to the height of the waist, the palm upwards, sketches a gesture of discussion, of which there is no exact equivalent in ancient statuary. Epicurus' right arm is stretched to the side in a broad gesture; the hand, disappeared, brandished an object of which remains, at the bottom left of the fragment, the slightly convex outline in two rows of gray-green tesserae (curved stick?). The text that accompanies it, very mutilated, is that of a sentence apparently famous in antiquity: "It is not possible to live with pleasure without living with prudence, honesty and justice, nor to live with prudence, honesty and justice without living with pleasure."


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    Googel translation.

    The three inscriptions tend to prove that Epicureanism can be an important element in the search for and maintenance of civic concord. This theme of civil peace as a result of moderation is ultimately the one that makes it possible to make the most balanced synthesis of all aspects of the Autun mosaic. The quality of the texts and images must be put in relation with the schools of Autun, so renowned since their foundation (Tacitus, Annales, III, 43; Eumène, Discours pour la restauration des Ecoles d'Autun, Panegyr. LaLV); the teaching of rhetoric was to play a great role and the sentences taken from the Letters of Epicurus and Metrodorus were particularly appreciated.

    Faced with this great refinement, the play between two types of writing that makes it possible to advance the date of the end of the Second Century, we can wonder about the owner of this house: perhaps a rhetorician?, in any case a notable trained by the Schools that made the city of Autun a hotbed of Hellenism in Gaul.

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    • April 15, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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    Thank you for all of this, Marco! A while ago I posted something to the forum written by one of Stephen Greenblatt's critics. She (a Christian interested in medieval theology) wrote that Epicureanism was never widespread after the Renaissance, or even before it.

    Never widespread in antiquity!? This can only be attributed to a failure to examine the evidence. Thank you for providing some of it here!

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    • April 15, 2022 at 2:39 PM
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    I was able to access the garden at the site of the excavations.

  • Kalosyni November 19, 2023 at 6:08 PM

    Moved the thread from forum Thomas Jefferson to forum Epicurean Art from Classical Antiquity, including modern reproductions.

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