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Epicurean Pleaure and Enjoyment Differs Depending on Introvert vs. Extrovert Brain Differences

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    • October 20, 2021 at 2:45 PM
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    Are you an introvert or an extrovert?

    Brain differences can influence what feels enjoyable and pleasurable. The introvert is going to seek out and enjoy ataraxia much more than an extrovert. Understanding brain differences can create respect for both ways of navigating the world and experiencing pleasure. Here on the forum this can create space for understanding differing interpretations of Epicurean pleasure.

    This article presents the differences in introvert and extrovert brains.

    Introverts' and Extroverts' Brains Really Are Different, According to Science
    Here's a quick-and-dirty guide to some key differences between introverts' and extroverts' brains, according to science — and it explains a lot.
    introvertdear.com

    The following is an excerpt:

    "Why do extroverts like action, but introverts like calm?

    "It may have to do with two powerful chemicals found in the brain — dopamine and acetylcholine, “jolt juices” that hugely impact our behavior."

    "Dopamine gives us immediate, intense zaps of happiness when we act quickly, take risks, and seek novelty. Acetylcholine, on the other hand, also rewards us, but its effects are more subtle — it makes us relaxed, alert, and content."

    "One explanation for introversion vs. extroversion, according to Dr. Marti Olsen Laney in her 2002 book, The Introvert Advantage, is extroverts are less sensitive to dopamine, so they need more of it to feel happy. The more they talk, move, and socialize, the more they feel dopamine’s pleasant effects."

    "But when it comes to us “quiet ones,” too much dopamine can overstimulate us, writes Laney, like a kid with a tummy ache hopped up on too much sugar. On the other hand, when we read, concentrate, or use our minds in some way, we feel good because our brains release acetylcholine — a happiness bump so gentle that extroverts hardly register it."

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    • October 20, 2021 at 2:59 PM
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    I haven't had time to look at the article but I immediately recall that there are aspects of Lucretius' poem that talk about the differences in types of people and what they dream about and similar aspects of their personalities (at least one reference related to the type of "air" that they contain, if I recall ;) ) so there are definitely text references that help with discussing personal differences in pleasure.

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    • October 20, 2021 at 6:16 PM
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    If you're interested in this topic, take a look at the book (Quiet) and website by Susan Cain.

  • Kalosyni February 24, 2023 at 1:29 PM

    Moved the thread from forum General Discussion And Navigation to forum Daily Life As An Epicurean.
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    Bryan This thread is relevant to what came up in this afternoon's Zoom discussion.

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    I will look at the article but I want to note at the top that I don't think that there is ultimately any Epicurean endorsement of either "extrovert" or "introvert" orientation, except perhaps at a very basic level of appreciating the value of friendship in attaining. In other words, I think the keys are

    1 - As Robert observed, it's best to have a fundamentally accurate assessment of nature so that you don't go off in crazy directions such as thinking that there is reward or punishment after death and that you should therefore hold back on experiencing pleasure now for the sake of experiencing pleasure after death.

    2 - Ultimately the issue is largely subjective - each person has to decide for themselves what gives them the greatest pleasure and therefore what course they want to pursue in life. Living a quiet life in the middle of the nowhere may in fact be the best choice for some people, and I'm not far from that position myself. However in making that decision as in point 1 you want to be as accurate as possible in your assessment of the universe and the available options. If you decide that you're going to live low to the ground now in order to "lay up your treasures in heaven" then you'll be sorely disappointed in the results of your calculation. (Of course you won't be in a position to be disappointed, because you won't exist). That issue would be a subset of Epicurus' several observations that you should not postpone your happiness - because you're not at all guaranteed any additional period of time to enjoy it.

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