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Epicurean Food Trivia - Garum?

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  • February 23, 2021 at 7:03 AM
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    • February 23, 2021 at 7:03 AM
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    I was going to ask this of michelepinto privately but it might be of wider interest:

    I keep reading that a big part of the ancient diet was garum - some kind of "fish sauce.". For example: https://www.asor.org/anetoday/2021/…0e9aeY6tZDZAci8

    Does anyone know what a modern equivalent of this would be available maybe through something like Amazon? I would like to try it but want to be sure to get an authentic style!

    I see there are lots of options here: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=garum+fish+sauce+roman

  • Cassius February 23, 2021 at 7:03 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Epicurean food trivia - garum?” to “Epicurean Food Trivia - Garum?”.
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    • February 23, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    Tasting History had a great episode on garum of you haven't seen it:

    That's also some other great Greek and Roman food covered in his channel.

    I think any Southeast Asian fish sauce would be a possible alternative. I don't think Worcestershire sauce would be!

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    • February 24, 2021 at 4:41 PM
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    Here your garum:

    https://www.amazon.it/Sicilia-Bedda-…14202830&sr=8-2

    But garum was roman not greek

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    • February 24, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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    Thank you Michele - is this kind of thing still regularly used in Italy?

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    • February 24, 2021 at 8:00 PM
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    Since we're on the subject, I did recently have a conversation with a young man from Texas who tells me that cow udders are a delicacy in those parts. With a decent bottle of red, one, though of modest means, might nevertheless dine like an aristocrat.

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    If you miss udders and draughts of Chian wine, you will see at least sincere friends and you will hear things far sweeter than the land of the Phaeacians. But if you ever cast your eyes on me, Piso, we shall celebrate the twentieth richly instead of simply.

    -Philodemus

    Going from memory, I believe that bread and water (Diogenes Laertius) and a 'pot of cheese' (Usener) will round out the attested fare.

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    • February 24, 2021 at 8:02 PM
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    Although it occurs to me now that I haven't even taken Lucretius into account. 🤔

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    • February 25, 2021 at 2:25 AM
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    Thank you Michele - is this kind of thing still regularly used in Italy?

    No, we do not use it.

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    • January 10, 2024 at 2:55 PM
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    Garum is fascinating—it's an ancient Roman condiment made from fermented fish! Talk about a blast from the past. Exploring culinary history is such a treat. Speaking of exploring, have you ventured into using organic milk powder in your recipes? It's a versatile ingredient, perfect for creating creamy textures in various dishes. So, while diving into the intriguing world of historical foods like Garum, incorporating quality ingredients can bring modern recipes to life with a rich, creamy twist!

    Edited once, last by Salisuhassan (January 11, 2024 at 2:27 AM).

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    Salisuhassan - Could you please respond to your welcome thread -


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    • January 10, 2024 at 4:26 PM
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    Garum is fascinating—it's an ancient Roman condiment made from fermented fish!

    I tried making garum -- it turned out awful. 8o ;( (Likely my fault; I can't remember what ingredients I used.) Now I just use Thai fish sauce.

    "We must try to make the end of the journey better than the beginning, as long as we are journeying; but when we come to the end, we must be happy and content." (Vatican Saying 48)

  • Kalosyni December 2, 2024 at 7:01 PM

    Moved the thread from forum General Discussion to forum Culture, Customs, and Historical Events of Ancient Greeks and Romans.
  • Cassius January 23, 2025 at 2:40 PM

    Moved the thread from forum Culture, Customs, and Historical Events of Ancient Greeks and Romans to forum History and Customs - General.

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