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    • October 4, 2020 at 7:58 PM
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    • October 6, 2020 at 12:47 PM
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    Timely news:

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    • October 6, 2020 at 1:21 PM
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    I was wondering if Roger Penrose was still alive -- apparently he is! Thanks Godfrey!

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    This video is the best information I have found on the theory of consciousness that Roger Penrose has been working on. It is a difficult lecture, but gets better as it goes along, and the second half is more biology than physics. The Q and A session at the end is excellent.


    There is some pretty solid science here, with successful experimentation. If you choose to watch it and can’t stand the math, jump ahead to the 40min mark. I would like to watch it again before I make suggestions on how the theory may relate to anticipations, “images” of the gods, and to epistemology in general, but I think there is something important here:


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    • November 19, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    I think I am the one who introduced Roger Penrose into the thread, and unfortunately (or should I say, as usual) I haven't had time to follow through on reading up on him in detail.

    However to add this to the mix here is a link that is critical of at least some of Penrose's positions: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quantum_c…s#Roger_Penrose

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    Thank you, Cassius. It looks like all of the papers listed were written 1 to 11 years before this YouTube presentation. I don’t think Penrose and Hameroff had been able to publish their experimental results before then. The issues raised seem to be addressed in the presentation, but I would be interested if you find anything else of this nature.


    It’s a long presentation, so I understand if people give it a miss!

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