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A foodie ponders Epicurus the epicurean

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  • February 9, 2020 at 3:38 PM
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    • February 9, 2020 at 3:38 PM
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    https://www.academia.edu/11401667/_Epic…es_philosopher_

    This essay was a nice accompaniment to my tea and dark chocolate this morning. I enjoyed the author's discussion of pleasure, food and friendship in the Garden. He also addressed Plato nicely. I'm not so sure about his linking Epicurus to liberalism, but I really haven't given that much thought so maybe I'm exposing my ignorance. All in all, I found it a very perceptive piece that, to me, conceives of Epicurus much as we do here and states the case very well.

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    • February 9, 2020 at 4:16 PM
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    BTW this is by Michael Symons in Australia. I don't think he's the Food Network guy....

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    • February 9, 2020 at 5:55 PM
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    Godfrey I just started reading but already I am not sure if this is sort of tongueincheek. I agree with his contention that enjoyment of food has been misrepresented downward, but to place it at the CENTER of the philosophy? That seems almost like a joke. I will have to read more ;)

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    I Still get the impression he is joking, but in this excerpt I think he is exactly correct in criticizing these "authorities":

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    • February 9, 2020 at 6:09 PM
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    OK I finished it am and glad to see that he cites DeWitt, and I see several reflections of DeWitt in the text.

    Yet i still can't shake the view that his praise of "Foodies" is largely un-serious.

    I think you said it best Godfrey when you said:

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    This essay was a nice accompaniment to my tea and dark chocolate this morning

    I'm not sure exactly what audience I would suggest this to, but I do agree that to the extent he is making a serious point, he shows a lot of influence from DeWitt and his points are consistent with a DeWitt view of Epicurus as not being an ascetic at all

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    • February 10, 2020 at 12:11 AM
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    You're right Cassius it does seem tongue in cheek in some parts, but he does make good points. The feeling I get is that he's writing as a "laughing philosopher".

    Maybe best read with a glass of wine and a bit of cheese. :/

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    • February 10, 2020 at 12:34 AM
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    Here's the author's website; apparently he's a gastronomic researcher who combines his research with sociology and economics:

    https://mealsmatter.net/

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