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    • July 20, 2019 at 10:01 AM
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    If there is enough interest in the Cyreniacs we may open a new section of the forum devoted only to them, but for now let's talk about them under "Hedonism."

    I've just read the following article by David Sedley entitled "Diogenes of Oenoanda on Cyreniac Hedonism."

    The main thrust of the article is that Sedley believes that Martin Ferguson Smith is wrong in thinking that several sections of the Inscription are targeted against the Stoics. He believes, rather, that they are targeted against the Cyreniacs -- particularly this section:

    This is an excellent article and affirms the hazards in textual reconstruction from mutilated original texts.

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    Here's my review of a book of the Cyrenaics

    http://societyofepicurus.com/cyrenaic-reasonings/

    Onfray also has a lot to say about them and about Aristippus

    I read that essay recently. These discussions must have taken place at the onset of the Garden, because by the time Diogenes was writing I do not believe there is evidence of any Cyrenaic school, so I believe this means that Diogenes was citing or re-stating discussions from earlier, probably quoting from the founders themselves.

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    • February 25, 2021 at 7:16 AM
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    "For our nature [wants what] is better for our soul. Moreover, the soul is manifestly more [powerful] than the body; for it [has] control of the extreme and supremacy over the other [feelings], as indeed we revealed it [above.] [So if], through paying attention to the arguments of Aristippus, we take care of the body, [choosing] all the pleasure derived from drink, food and [sexual acts] and indeed absolutely all the things which no longer [give enjoyment after the happening], but neglect the soul, we shall deprive ourselves of the greatest pleasures."


    Diogenes of Oinoanda Fragment 29 http://www.english.enoanda.cat/the_inscription.html

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