Ethics - General Discussion

In this section we discuss Epicurean Ethics and how to live as an Epicurean in a world where there are no supernatural gods and no life after death.

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    2. Perspectives On "Proving" That Pleasure is "The Good" 205

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    2. Would You Rather Live For A Week As (1) Epicurus During the Last Week of His Life or (2) An Anonymous Shepherd Laying In The Grass In The Summertime With No Pain At All? 104

      • Cassius
      • September 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM
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    4. Pacatus

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    2. Are You Epicurean Or Hieronymian? 26

      • Cassius
      • October 1, 2019 at 2:08 PM
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      June 30, 2022 at 5:44 AM

    2. Pleasure, Desire and Limits 36

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    4. Godfrey

      July 20, 2022 at 8:34 PM

    2. On "Desires" And Their Relationship To Pleasure 30

      • Godfrey
      • September 10, 2020 at 2:53 PM
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      • September 12, 2020 at 7:44 PM
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    4. Cassius

      September 12, 2020 at 7:44 PM

    2. "Absence Of Pain Is Pleasure" - How Would You Articulate That To Someone? 37

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      • April 16, 2025 at 5:22 PM
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      April 16, 2025 at 5:22 PM

    2. Elena Nicoli - An Excellent Presentation On Epicurean Pleasure 11

      • Cassius
      • April 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM
      • Cassius
      • May 7, 2018 at 10:50 AM
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    2. Is pleasure as the natural goal of life falsifiable? 30

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      • December 8, 2022 at 6:08 AM
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      • February 10, 2023 at 11:02 PM
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    4. Don

      February 10, 2023 at 11:02 PM

    2. Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob. 15

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      • May 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM
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    4. Hiram

      May 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM

    2. Is All "Ataraxia" Equal? 30

      • Cassius
      • November 18, 2023 at 7:47 PM
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      February 19, 2024 at 12:29 PM

    2. Valueless Virtue in Modern Stoicism 16

      • Matt
      • January 10, 2019 at 8:48 AM
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      • January 22, 2019 at 6:28 PM
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    4. Condorcet

      January 22, 2019 at 6:28 PM

    2. Imagery On The Interplay Between "Pursue Pleasure" and 'Avoid Pain" 33

      • Cassius
      • March 28, 2023 at 9:09 AM
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      • March 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM
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    4. Don

      March 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM

    2. Mental pleasure/pain more intense and longer lasting than physical pleasure/pain 33

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      • December 13, 2023 at 10:19 PM
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      December 13, 2023 at 10:19 PM

    2. How has the word epicurean come to mean excess? 22

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      • May 19, 2023 at 6:50 PM
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    4. Cassius

      May 19, 2023 at 6:50 PM

    2. We Need A Game Show With A Lightning Round Question: "Happiness or Pleasure? - Why?" 28

      • Cassius
      • February 2, 2023 at 8:16 PM
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      • February 5, 2023 at 3:43 PM
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    4. Little Rocker

      February 5, 2023 at 3:43 PM

    2. An Epicurean "Sanity Check" 14

      • Cassius
      • February 2, 2019 at 11:55 PM
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      • February 5, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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      February 5, 2019 at 8:20 AM

    2. As to the Term "Hedonic Calculus" or the "Calculus of Advantage" 22

      • Cassius
      • February 27, 2022 at 7:26 AM
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      • March 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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      March 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM

    2. If Death Is Nothing To Us, Then Life Is Everything to Us 29

      • Cassius
      • October 7, 2023 at 12:06 AM
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    4. Cassius

      October 7, 2023 at 8:22 PM

    2. Would There Be Benefit In Adapting the "Benjamin Franklin Journaling Model" To Our Discussion of Practical Exercises? 16

      • Cassius
      • July 12, 2021 at 12:26 PM
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      July 12, 2021 at 12:26 PM

    2. Tips On Offsetting Pleasures Against Pains 24

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      • November 28, 2023 at 8:27 AM
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    2. Practical Pleasure-Pain Perspectives: How Different is 99% Pleasure From 100% Pleasure? 13

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      • October 5, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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      October 6, 2023 at 10:24 AM

    2. Maximum pleasure as absence of all pain: a philosophical question concerning neuroscientific and Epicurean outlook toward the feeling of pleasure 10

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      • January 26, 2024 at 7:24 PM
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    2. Epicureanism Vs Asceticism 8

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      • March 12, 2019 at 9:44 AM
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      March 14, 2019 at 1:37 PM

    2. Explaining In Summary Form How A Man In Extreme Pain Can Be Said To Be "Happy" 22

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      • April 20, 2024 at 5:38 AM
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    2. Natural versus Unnatural 12

      • Matt
      • December 30, 2020 at 8:54 AM
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    4. Cassius

      January 10, 2021 at 12:33 PM

    2. After Religion and Death, The Third Greatest Threat To Happiness As The Highest Goal of Life 5

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      • December 27, 2018 at 4:33 PM
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    2. Some Epicurean conclusions 7

      • Stan85
      • May 19, 2018 at 7:23 PM
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    2. Scientific Support for Psychological Hedonism 19

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    2. Epicureans On Kingship 15

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    2. Epicurean virtues listed by importance 8

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    2. What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity? 1

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    2. Daily life of ancient Epicureans / 21st Century Epicureans 38

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    2. Emily Austin's "LIving For Pleasure" Wins Award. (H/T to Lowri for finding this!)

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    2. Confusion: "The feelings are only two" 49

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    2. Brain-storming Ideas for Future Study Groups 11

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