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    • December 31, 2025 at 6:25 AM
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    Welcome Hyakinthos

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

    All new registrants must post a response to this message here in this welcome thread (we do this in order to minimize spam registrations).

    You must post your response within 24 hours, or your account will be subject to deletion.

    Please say "Hello" by introducing yourself, tell us what prompted your interest in Epicureanism and which particular aspects of Epicureanism most interest you, and/or post a question.

    This forum is the place for students of Epicurus to coordinate their studies and work together to promote the philosophy of Epicurus. Please remember that all posting here is subject to our Community Standards and associated Terms of Use. Please be sure to read that document to understand our ground rules.

    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from most other philosophies, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit of truth and happy living through pleasure as explained in the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be assured of your time here will be productive is to tell us a little about yourself and your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you already have.

    You can also check out our Getting Started page for ideas on how to use this website.

    We have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

    It is by no means essential or required that you have read these texts before participating in the forum, but your understanding of Epicurus will be much enhanced the more of these you have read. Feel free to join in on one or more of our conversation threads under various topics found throughout the forum, where you can to ask questions or to add in any of your insights as you study the Epicurean philosophy.

    And time has also indicated to us that if you can find the time to read one book which will best explain classical Epicurean philosophy, as opposed to most modern "eclectic" interpretations of Epicurus, that book is Norman DeWitt's Epicurus And His Philosophy.

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    • December 31, 2025 at 6:27 AM
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    Hyakinthos tells us:

    This is to confirm my request for a new account.

    Hey! I'm actually fairly new to Epicureanism but have studied other
    philosophy before, especially Taoism. In fact I actually found Epicureanism
    through studying Yang Zhu (a Taoist contemporary to Epicurus) and while I
    do love Taoism.
    The ethics and logic of Epicurus really spoke to me. I've never understood
    why so many religions and philosophies shun the idea of pleasant living in
    favor of some abstract concept, such as relationship with God, or mystic
    nirvana.
    So far even in the 2 months I've been studying Epicurus, I've found his
    doctrines to actually be helping me improve my life and my outlook on life,
    which is more than any religion has ever done.
    Anyways, I'm also a huge history and mythology nerd. That's about it.

    Thanks so much for having me, I'm really excited to be here, and really
    excited to learn more!

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    Welcome Hyankinthos --- What have you been reading so far?

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    • December 31, 2025 at 1:07 PM
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    Hey! I'm actually fairly new to Epicureanism but have studied other
    philosophy before, especially Taoism. In fact I actually found Epicureanism
    through studying Yang Zhu (a Taoist contemporary to Epicurus) and while I
    do love Taoism.

    There are useful similarities between Epicurean Philosophy and parts of the Taoist tradition, for sure (and, of course, Yang Zhu's branch of Chinese hedonism even moreso). If you haven't come across it before, the "Dudeist" platform claims specific inspiration from those two traditions.

    I happened to collaborate with "The Dude" a few years ago and make a pseudo-translation. Welcome to the group! I look forward to your observations. :)

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    Welcome to the forum Hyakinthos !

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    • December 31, 2025 at 3:24 PM
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    Welcome! Love the username, by the way!

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    Thank you so much for the warm welcome, really happy to be here!! I'm really excited to learn more about this fantastic philosophy.

    I'm just kinda sad that so much of Epicurus' works are lost to the sands of time

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    A lot has been lost but the essentials are still there. When you get a chance tell us what you've read and that will help us make recommendations.

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    I've read most of the basics. Leading Doctrines, Vatican Collection, Letter to Menoeceus and Herodotus. The only things I haven't read are Diogenes Laertius and Letter to Pythocles

    I know everyone recommends DeWitt's book, I have that in a PDF so I'm probably gonna start that next

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