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  • Don May 14, 2026 at 12:24 PM

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    Welcome aboard!

  • Martin May 14, 2026 at 12:04 PM

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    Welcome Griffin!

  • Griffin May 14, 2026 at 11:25 AM

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    Thanks Cassius. Good to be here.

  • Cassius May 14, 2026 at 11:07 AM

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    Hello Griffin happy to have you!

  • Cassius May 14, 2026 at 11:07 AM

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    Griffin tells us:

    Hi Cassius,

    I live in the Wasatch Mountains in Utah.

    I came to Epicurus the way most serious things find you - sideways and without warning. I've been self-studying philosophy for over a year starting with the ancient Greeks, working…

  • Cassius May 14, 2026 at 11:06 AM

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    Welcome @Griffin

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

    All new registrants must post a response to this message here in this welcome thread (we do this in order to minimize spam registrations).

    You must post your response within 24 hours, or…

  • Cassius May 14, 2026 at 11:03 AM

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    Episode 333 of the Lucretius Today Podcast is now available. This week our episode is entitled: "Epicurus Disputes The Stoic View Of The Sensations and the Anticipations."

    [media]https://www.spreaker.com/episode/72006643/media

  • Cassius May 14, 2026 at 4:06 AM

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    Happy Birthday to ernesto.sun! Learn more about ernesto.sun and say happy birthday on ernesto.sun's timeline: ernesto.sun

  • Godfrey May 13, 2026 at 8:00 PM

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    Don you can be gratified that you're now established as an expert source! ^^

  • Don May 13, 2026 at 5:46 PM

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    […]

    :D

  • Cassius May 13, 2026 at 5:40 PM

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    I don't think that's overly harsh. Of course when the Terminators take over they may not agree ;)

    This is like living through the industrial revolution and radio and tv and internet all in one - or more.

    The points it picked up from you are good for it to…

  • Don May 13, 2026 at 5:31 PM

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    I fully realize that this is going to come off as harsh, but I was off work today with sinus issues, sneezes, aches, and coughs and maybe my inhibitions are a little less than usual. Please take that as context, but with that said...

    I'm sorry, but this…

  • Kalosyni May 13, 2026 at 8:44 AM

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    Don Regarding the formating of the Principal Doctrines , I just looked that up and found this (AI Google):

    Modern translators and classical scholars determine where one doctrine ends and the next begins by evaluating four primary lines of evidence: …

  • TauPhi May 12, 2026 at 10:57 PM

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    This may partially answer your question, Dave:

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  • Bryan May 12, 2026 at 10:41 PM

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    thank you for the question! I prefer when the answer rests in On Nature... but here we are On Lives only!



    1.ὁ ᾠκειωμένος

    10.37a. "ὅθεν, δὴ πᾶσι χρησίμης οὔσης τοῖς ᾠκειωμένοις φυσιολογίᾳ τῆς τοιαύτης ὁδοῦ..."
    ...therefore, certainly since such a course…

  • Don May 12, 2026 at 9:33 PM

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    Do you have the citations/references for those? I'm curious to check them out.

  • DaveT May 12, 2026 at 8:12 PM

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    I just finished watching three episodes in the Netflix series titled Kaos starring Jeff Goldblum as Zeus. It is an adult level comedy with the Greek gods set in modern times with ancient gods from mythology stories up to new tricks against each other and…

  • Bryan May 12, 2026 at 5:21 PM

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    I agree with you, Cassius. I will parenthetically add that Epicurus does use all of these terms below, and it is clear that they are "grades" or "rankings" of one's advancement, but I doubt the divisions were very formalized.



  • Cassius May 12, 2026 at 4:47 PM

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    Great points. I certainly can't speak definitively but I gather some people think that Epicurus was frequently talking about "sages" in the sense of dedicated lifelong philosophers. There's a book out there "Epicurus The Sage" and i have never liked…

  • DaveT May 12, 2026 at 4:22 PM

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    I just finished reading this entire thread. Unless you all came to a final conclusion of whether or when Epicurus condoned marriage, which I did not pick up, I had another thought that might bear some scrutiny. And that is: What did he mean when he…

  • Don May 12, 2026 at 7:20 AM

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    Thanks! Fixed.

  • Cassius May 12, 2026 at 7:10 AM

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    Far be it for me to question anyone's typing but perhaps you meant a word other than "verified"?

  • Don May 12, 2026 at 7:03 AM

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    Going back to the original purpose of this thread: the meaning of PD25 :

    As I've said ad nauseum in the past, the Principal Doctrines were not originally "versified" into separate Doctrines. It was one text, granted covering a number of topics but not…

  • Cassius May 12, 2026 at 4:05 AM

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    Happy Birthday to Keith! Learn more about Keith and say happy birthday on Keith's timeline: Keith

  • Don May 11, 2026 at 10:51 PM

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    Don't sweat it. That was a labor of love delving into the Greek. Translation masks a number of similar words that are there in the original.

  • wbernys May 11, 2026 at 10:46 PM

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    Way to make me feel unlearned lol. It seems it is a bigger deal than i let on.

  • wbernys May 11, 2026 at 10:44 PM

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    I see what you mean, especialli with the pet example, got a little void at home i would be lonely without. But that is the point to me, we engage in those joys which may have heartbreak because we want the pleasent memories and feelings of attachment…

  • Don May 11, 2026 at 10:28 PM

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    There may not be many instances of the word ataraxia but terms similar to or derived from it show up in numerous places in the extant texts:

    From a post of mine from 2023:

    I am starting this thread to compile a list of every time the words Ataraxia,…

  • Cassius May 11, 2026 at 10:17 PM

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    I agree firmly with the idea that getting completely rid of bodily and mental pain constitutes the goal, and that having such a goal serves a very real purpose as identifying an organizing principal, and as I think that you mentioned earlier this is…

  • Don May 11, 2026 at 10:09 PM

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    LOL I know that I'm never completely free from pain. Maybe I'm overgeneralizing though. There's always a twinge, ache, etc, somewhere in my body or mind. Now, if I try, I can ignore them for a bit. If I'm engrossed in a task or engaged in an activity…

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