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  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 4:17 PM

    Replied to the thread Discussion of Blog Article - "Reality Does Not Require Being Eternally The Same".
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    Thanks Martin. I'll take a look at that aspect as I get time. I suspect in the end the issue might be summarized as "Kant rejected dogmatism and Epicurus embraced dogmatism."

    Obviously to drill down into that the word "dogmatism" would have to be…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 2:54 PM

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    […]

    I want to add into this thread as an aside that I have tremendous respect for the effort that Eikadistes has put into Epicurean philosophy over the years. Not only that, but he's younger than most of the rest of us here and he's having to live through…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 12:53 PM

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    […]

    As some say but I am saying without any sarcasm to you, as the phrase goes, "hope is not a strategy."

    I think you're absolutely right to be concerned about that. It seems to me very very likely to happen, so we have to fight against it with every tool…
  • Martin April 1, 2026 at 11:38 AM

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    It is exactly that sentence ("On one side stands a tradition stretching from Plato...") which is false because Kant rejected dogmatism and did not reject the senses. In Kant's view, we know about the world through the senses. His epistemology examines…
  • Eikadistes April 1, 2026 at 11:29 AM

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    I deleted my LinkedIn account a few weeks ago.

    (Quick side-note, AI killed my industry a few month ago, so I'm trying to get into technical writing).

    The last activity I registered on LinkedIn was a comment thread about the ethics of using AI in…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 10:58 AM

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    Great question. Ultimately nothing that I could not have done alone given enough time and effort. But it is an exponential force multiplier that allows things to be possible in reasonable time and effort which would not have been possible without…
  • DaveT April 1, 2026 at 10:48 AM

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    TauPhi   Don   Cassius and fellow forum members: Perhaps some reactions to the editorial use of AI are based on mis-perceptions. If you already know this, you quite understand my comment here.

    As an award-winning fiction author, I hired a highly…
  • Don April 1, 2026 at 10:31 AM

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    Your scenario is still just positing an imitation of a Beatles song, and the "musician" didn't create it. The algorithm did, admittedly using a training data set of Epicurean texts, I suppose. Is it really Epicurus' "genuine teaching" if it's an…
  • Don April 1, 2026 at 9:54 AM

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    […]

    Okay, so with that context, what's the selling point of generative AI over just creating content the "old fashioned" way and putting it out there?

    Using your articles specifically, what did the generative AI application give you that you couldn't have…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 9:49 AM

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    Another specific hypothetical:

    Suppose a human in 1965 who is creative but not a musician decides that he can use AI to produce a song that is as beautiful and catchy as anything produced by the Beatles, and also specifically brings to the listeners'…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 9:37 AM

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    Yes as I see it that is the test - the actual result. You would not want to turn loose generative AI without human supervision and without the ability for a human to override the Ai when it is wrong, as it often will be. I think that's pretty much…
  • Don April 1, 2026 at 9:09 AM

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    […]

    And therein lies the rub. In my scenario of bots posting and responding algorithmically, there is no "actual community of living Epicureans." There may be unlimited "Epicurean" content online in this scenario, but there is no community, no real…
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    Patrikios If I read you correctly I agree with your position.

    There is a lot of ambiguity in both "natural" and "necessary" and I think it is very ill advised to be overly dogmatic (in the worst sense of the word) as to what activities or what desires go…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 8:24 AM

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    Please use this thread for discussion of the merits of the article and suggestions for substantive changes. Posts originally made in this thread regarding the use of AI in the blog post are being moved to the thread below, which begins with this Admin…
  • Cassius April 1, 2026 at 8:14 AM

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    ADMIN NOTE BY CASSIUS -- I don't have the ability to create my own post so as to explain this thread so I am doing so in this ADMIN edit. I am moving all discussion of issues of the use of AI in two blog posts I generated in late March 2026 (of course…
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    I think this does a pretty good job of identifying the issues I am currently considering.

    And it immediately evokes in my mind the hypothetical of the "experience machine" and the issues involved in PD10 .

    The world is currently going through changes…
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  • Don April 1, 2026 at 7:37 AM

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    Hmmm...

    I understand the context of this AI component now a little better after reading this in the other article's thread:

    RE: Revisiting Issues of The Use of AI in Epicurean Philosophy This revelation on the use of AI to compose these articles does…
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  • Cassius March 31, 2026 at 9:29 PM

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    At the moment I don't have much more to say about the specifics of labeling, but I do want to share a recent conversation elsewhere which has greatly influenced my thinking on this subject. For those who don't follow the link here's the thumbnail:

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  • TauPhi March 31, 2026 at 8:14 PM

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    I still think the content of the article is very good. Nothing has changed and I have no criticism in this regard whatsoever.

    I retract my praise for the article because I was misled to think you wrote it which is not entirely the case. As I said…
  • Cassius March 31, 2026 at 7:17 PM

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    Note -- In order to appreciate the context of Tau Phi's post 14, this earlier post is essential context.



    Tau Phi I will think you have adequately stated your position as to any AI in this thread here. If you have some substantive criticism of the article…
  • TauPhi March 31, 2026 at 6:34 PM

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    Unfortunately, I have to retract my praise for this article as I found out it was AI assisted creation. Cassius , please add information about AI usage in your publications when AI is used. Signing such creations with your name only is misleading as…
  • Patrikios March 31, 2026 at 5:43 PM

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    Cassius

    Here is likely one of the few points that we may not see the terminology and human biological processes in the same way. So, with great respect I question the blanket categorization implied by this statement.

    When you use the term “sexual…
  • Cassius March 31, 2026 at 3:20 PM

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    Thank you Dave let me be clear as to the organization of the articles and address what some no doubt are wondering:

    In these two articles I have taken my draft outline as well as prior articles I've written on these topics and input the mix to AI to help…
  • DaveT March 31, 2026 at 2:44 PM

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    First off, this was such a well written piece in its structure, clarity and logic. I'm jealous of the style you have exhibited in constructing this as well as the recent review of Massimo Pigliuci's essay. This is really good writing. My only critical…
  • Cassius March 31, 2026 at 2:05 PM

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    Martin it looks to me like I mention Kant once in the article, in a sentence that is focused on rejection of the senses:

    […]



    I don't see that sentence as significantly a problem for the article's credibility. Of all the murkiness that surrounds Kant his…
  • Martin March 31, 2026 at 12:45 PM

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    It should be made clear that the article is rather against Plato's idealism. Putting Kant in the same bucket as Plato is wrong because Kant removed the ideal forms and Plato's nonsense that reality is truthfully revealed only by the logic of philosophers…
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