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  • Brandenoz April 14, 2026 at 2:32 PM

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    Klavan ended the preface of the book somewhat on a negative tone towards Epicureanism, I felt, but otherwise made a great case for the physics-based approach and on how 'We are all Epicureans Now' in many ways. The reason I wanted to read it is because…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 1:52 PM

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    This is very timely so thank you again for the book reference. I am working on two articles now and I am going to at least briefly review this so I can address some of what apparently appears here.

    I see that Klavan appeared on a podcast last year…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 1:26 PM

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    I see this about that book at Barnes and Noble (underline added)


    In this convenient volume, the classicist Spencer A. Klavan presents core selections from Epicurus’ own writings and those of his most famous ancient disciple, the poet Lucretius. Listen…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 1:17 PM

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    Hmmm that is interesting. Never heard of that and see that it is new... From Regnery the "conservative" publisher who also published Josh Hawleys book attacking Epicurus. And I am not familiar with Spencer Klavan either....

    Was the book mostly positive…
  • Brandenoz April 14, 2026 at 1:02 PM

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    Hello, and thanks for having me. I especially was drawn into the graphic on the home page showing Epicurean physics + canonics = ethics. A book I was reading structured Epicurean ethics in that same way and I thought that made a lot of sense. The book…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 12:38 PM

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    Excellent questions Patrikios. Thanks for asking them and it seems to me thought experiment is a useful way to approach the problem.

    It's possible "modern physics" might have one answer, but even if it's different -- and I'm not sure it would be -- it…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 12:34 PM

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    Welcome Branden - You path here from Stoicism is not a lot different from my own, though I preferred Cicero to Seneca. As to the Buddhist question we have several here who know much more about that than I do, so I'll let them chime in.

    Glad to have you…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 12:33 PM

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    Hi Cassius,

    I got into philosophy through Ryan Holiday's lighter works on Stoicism. Then from there, I read the three Roman Stoics he talks about, Marcus, Epictetus, and Seneca. I knew right away that I liked Seneca and through his…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 12:31 PM

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  • Patrikios April 14, 2026 at 12:08 PM

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    Cassius , Martin , thanks for a fascinating discussion on causes of motion.
    If I do the thought experiment of placing an object (e.g. 10kg weight) in the void outside of the earth’s gravity, would the object move on its own? Or would that…
  • Cassius April 14, 2026 at 4:33 AM

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    Martin what is the understanding of gravity today?

    Is it held to exist independently as its own entity separate from all other things?

    Is gravity itself "uncaused"?

    Given that it appears to take a moon-sized or planet-sized body to generate much gravity, I…
  • Martin April 14, 2026 at 2:26 AM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    Today's meaning of "weight" is indeed a poor fit. The modern term "inertial mass" seems to be accurate for βάρους in the context of Epicurean atoms moving with constant speed. There was no proper understanding of gravity in ancient times, but…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 8:42 PM

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    I'll talk to the others and look into that. Thanks
  • Patrikios April 13, 2026 at 6:45 PM

    Replied to the thread What would Epicurus have thought of going to the moon?.
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    […]

    Epicurus taught us to study Nature, day & night. How else can a human on earth study the nature of the moon, without going there in order to verify the assumptions made from the observations of our senses here on earth.

    In his Letter to Pythocles,…
  • Patrikios April 13, 2026 at 6:19 PM

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    Kalosyni ,

    Thanks for bringing this article & author to our attention.


    Cassius , Joshua ,

    Would you see doing a podcast interview with JoEllen DeLucia? The public interview of her is interesting. Maybe she would be able to release a copy of her…
  • Patrikios April 13, 2026 at 6:04 PM

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    […]

    […]

    TauPhi , I do appreciate the interactive dialog on this thread topic, especially some of your thoughtful questions. I think you greatly underestimate the breadth & depth of these mind viruses; especially in the current USA. Unfortunately, I do…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 4:38 PM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    Good thoughts Bryan. I would not want to use a word not closely related to something actually used.

    Do you have any thoughts on the Greek or Latin words used in any of the places you have seen this discussed? I don't gather that "weight" is a direct…
  • Bryan April 13, 2026 at 3:30 PM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    I think the English word "weight" works. We know what it means, it is the heaviness in an object.

    If certain trends in modern science do not use words in their normal and correct sense, I'd say that is their problem!

    Just like we do not throw out "god" or…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 2:24 PM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    And solving the problem of terminology doesn't require that we wait for some kind of explicit physics rechnology explanation, any more than Epicurus waiting before taking about uncuttable atoms or the swerve. The issue is that the atoms possess within…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 10:06 AM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    Yes I presume Goodwin is struggling with the same issue we are discussing. Epicurus is apparently using the word to designate a capacity for self-generated motion (as in the swerve) and in English "weight" does not give us that self-moving capacity. We…
  • Eikadistes April 13, 2026 at 9:47 AM

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    I don't love the following description by Pseudo-Ploútarkhos, but as is translated by Goodwin, it presents "burden" (usually translated as "weight" or "mass") as "gravity:

    […]

    I don't know if that's accurate about Dēmókritos because Pseudo-P. was writing…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 6:57 AM

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    Aenaedum tells us:

    I have an undergraduate degree in Classics, with a focus on Horace and Lucretius, and a Masters in Comp Lit, with work on Montaigne and ataraxia. I've self-identified as a follower of Epicurus for many years, so I'm interested to learn…
  • Cassius April 13, 2026 at 6:56 AM

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  • Cassius April 12, 2026 at 8:19 PM

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    Note - I moved posts from wbernys and eikadistes to the subforum for PD06 as they are very useful there and can be found there more easily in the future.
  • Cassius April 12, 2026 at 8:14 PM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    Good thoughts as to the correspondence, Eikadistes. I haven't got much to go on yet but I think there's a bright line and that Epicurus would require that "weight" not imply that this particular cause of the motion of atoms is operating only because of…
  • Eikadistes April 12, 2026 at 5:53 PM

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    I've been wondering lately if there might be an innate correspondence between the three qualities and the atomic motions, being falling, recoiling (10.44), and swerving. Epíkouros writes to Hēródotos that the βάρους (bárous) "burden" (so I'm translating…
  • Eikadistes April 12, 2026 at 5:38 PM

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    […]

    That's really perceptive, and I appreciate you noting that one, in particular, because of all of the Doctrines, I find 6 to be unquestionably the most mis-translated, due to the language. You're right, it does need an update, though I caution that…
  • Cassius April 12, 2026 at 4:56 PM

    Replied to the thread Is Motion One Of The Three Eternal Properties of Atoms? I.E. Are The Three Properties Shape, Size, and MOTION?.
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    Thanks Joshua. So clearly the word being used is "weight." It seems possible however that that does not end the inquiry because it's potentially not clear what is meant by weight.

    Today (i gather) we are using weight as something that is attracted…
  • Joshua April 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM

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  • wbernys April 12, 2026 at 2:27 PM

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    […]

    Certainly would be awesome. I mainly want Torquatus (And Velleius) speech included and some of the english to be more clear and a little less archaic (PD6 in hedonicon is a example where i struggled to understand it). Got the best of Epicurus by…

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