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DaveT
June 16, 2026 at 11:29 AM Replied to the thread Relationship between AI/LLMs and prolepsis.Post[…]
I enjoyed your overall post in which you ended with the above thought. I guess I'm not an Epicurean but rather a student of Epicurean thought and an adopter of many of his methodologies for discovering knowledge. -
Peter Konstans
PostJune 16, 2026 at 8:53 AM IMO emergence has become popular because it promises a middle way between dualism and physicalism. You can have your cake of not believing in the supernatural and eat it with the pleasure of knowing that, while the cake is made of atoms, it is somehow… -
Peter Konstans
PostJune 16, 2026 at 8:32 AM In this debate I side with Tim O' Keefe. Here's the abstract of his paper.
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Cassius
Reaction (Post)June 16, 2026 at 7:44 AM […]
Thank you!! No, you are not misunderstanding... I just need to "get back to the books" to paraphrase Philodemus. I am woefully out of practice!
What I was saying is that we don't have any extant texts from Epicurus himself placing the gods in the… -
Cassius
PostJune 16, 2026 at 7:42 AM Thanks for the comment Peter.
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To what opinions does that lead you which conflict with the Sedley opinions in "Epicurean Anti_reductionism"?
Article - David Sedley - 1988 - "Epicurean Anti-Reductionism" -
Peter Konstans
PostJune 16, 2026 at 7:37 AM Reductionism is true for the simple reason that we know of nothing that can't be reduced to atoms. Literally everything is made of bosons and fermions. I personally favor the reductionist version of Epicureanism. So called emergent phenomena aren't real… -
Don
June 16, 2026 at 7:36 AM Replied to the thread Relationship between AI/LLMs and prolepsis.Post[…]
Thank you!! No, you are not misunderstanding... I just need to "get back to the books" to paraphrase Philodemus. I am woefully out of practice!
What I was saying is that we don't have any extant texts from Epicurus himself placing the gods in the… -
kochiekoch
Reaction (Post)June 16, 2026 at 7:27 AM We've discussed many of these issues many times in many plaves, but Just for the sake of having fun with the last post here is an example of how I would push back at the contention that Epicurean physics is obsolete. Ironically I would also expect that… -
Cassius
June 16, 2026 at 7:06 AM Replied to the thread Relationship between AI/LLMs and prolepsis.PostADMIN NOTE: Speaking of things breaking apart due to atomic collisions, I think Kalosyni is looking at dividing this thread up into more manageable topics such as separating the prolepsis of gods topic from prolepsis analogies to llm (while leaving… -
Cassius
June 16, 2026 at 7:03 AM Replied to the thread Relationship between AI/LLMs and prolepsis.Post[…]
I don't recall that we've discussed this but it would probably be interesting to pin down exactly what it was about being "between the worlds" that the Epicureans would have associated with the idea that this was a particularly hospitable place.
I…
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