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Kalosyni
February 27, 2026 at 8:10 PM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".PostHere is a diagram that I just made which has the telos at the top and then "climbs down the ladder of abstraction"...and it is still a work in progress ... open to thoughts and suggestions.
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Kalosyni
February 27, 2026 at 7:28 PM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".PostHere is a better article:
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The link:
https://bigthink.com/the-learning-c…of-abstraction/
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Kalosyni
February 27, 2026 at 6:42 PM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".Post[…]
I presented several ideas in the first post of this thread (the first point should have been addressed in a separate thread):
Point 1) There is no mandate to spread Epicurean philosophy to the masses
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Kalosyni
February 27, 2026 at 6:11 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Cassius’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".The part you have quoted there Kalosyni will be read by some people be circular or worse. It does not specifically identify what "happiness" is apart from pleasure. Further, in equating happiness to "katastematic pleasure" in that last sentence, the… -
Cassius
February 27, 2026 at 2:58 PM Replied to the thread Episode 322 - EATAQ 04 - Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates.PostEpisode 322 of the Lucretius Today Podcast is now available. This week our episode is entitled: "Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates"
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Cassius
Reaction (Post)February 27, 2026 at 2:48 PM I have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He… -
Joshua
Reaction (Post)February 27, 2026 at 1:23 PM I have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He… -
Godfrey
Reaction (Post)February 27, 2026 at 1:04 PM I have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He… -
bradley.whitley
February 27, 2026 at 12:45 PM Replied to the thread A Special Birthday Greeting To James!.PostI have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He… -
Cassius
February 27, 2026 at 9:30 AM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".PostI should also point out that this quotation in post 7 is a long distance from the point where this thread started out, when your advocated "Joy" as the goal ("Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal").
That's because katastematic…
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