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Bryan
June 24, 2026 at 9:59 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to DaveT’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.[…]
Nice try Cassius but NO. I listened to part of the "debate" and came away with a yawn. I checked out the Wiki pages of both men, too and decided they both prove why many Hellenist philosophers denigrated rhetoricians :). It looked like they were… -
Cassius
June 24, 2026 at 9:43 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Todd’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.[…]
That is probably true.
My point was more that "good" or "bad" have to be attached to concrete choices, not abstractions. Life is good (necessary) for experiencing pleasure. Death is bad for that, but it might be good if you only care about avoiding… -
Todd
PostJune 24, 2026 at 8:10 PM […]
That is probably true.
My point was more that "good" or "bad" have to be attached to concrete choices, not abstractions. Life is good (necessary) for experiencing pleasure. Death is bad for that, but it might be good if you only care about avoiding… -
Cassius
PostJune 24, 2026 at 7:58 PM […]
I could defend that being a related question in the sense that if you think life is not worth living in general then you're not likely to think it's a good idea to bring more children into the world. Strictly speaking I agree they are not the same… -
Todd
PostJune 24, 2026 at 7:41 PM […]
To me, this is not the same question. As I understand it, the question is specifically regarding one's own life or death.
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Are you saying Epicurus teaches life and death are of equal value? If so, I would strongly disagree with that interpretation. -
Cassius
June 24, 2026 at 7:19 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Don’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.Oh! Yeah, don't watch the whole video on that link I posted. If you do go over there, definitely skip ahead to 49:30 for just the short section of the discussion of life vs death. -
Don
PostJune 24, 2026 at 7:12 PM Oh! Yeah, don't watch the whole video on that link I posted. If you do go over there, definitely skip ahead to 49:30 for just the short section of the discussion of life vs death. -
Don
June 24, 2026 at 7:10 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Todd’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.[…]
This would be my first reaction also. -
Don
June 24, 2026 at 7:10 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Cassius’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.[…]
But sadiy and tragically, some don't, and they carry out what Lucretius mentioned some do .... which is why i don't accept the persuasiveness of PH -- but let's not get sidetracked on that.
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Don
June 24, 2026 at 7:09 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to DaveT’s post in the thread What Would Epicurus Say To Someone Who Said To Him That The Value of Being Dead and Being Alive Are Equal?.[…]
Nice try Cassius but NO. I listened to part of the "debate" and came away with a yawn. I checked out the Wiki pages of both men, too and decided they both prove why many Hellenist philosophers denigrated rhetoricians :). It looked like they were…
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