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Cassius
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 3:07 PM […]
As to especially "then you are not alive but dead" and also "someone who is alive is always feeling," that is not the way most people talk, and Cicero is going to win that argument every day of the week in front of most juries, Greek, Roman, or today.… -
Don
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 2:42 PM Are you alive?
Yes?
What are you feeling right now?
Nothing. I am in a neutral state, I am feeling neither pleasure nor pain.
Then you are not alive but dead.
Harrrrumph! Well, the absence of pain is not the highest pleasure.
If you are alive, you are… -
Cassius
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 2:13 PM […]
Maybe what I am saying is so obvious that it doesn't need to be said.
I'm looking for "what would Epicurus have said himself if he had been present with Cicero or Plutarch and been allowed to speak further beyond what Torquatus was allowed to say, or… -
kochiekoch
September 17, 2025 at 2:08 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Cassius’s post in the thread Episode 299 - TD27 - Was Epicurus Right That There Are Only Two Feelings - Pleasure And Pain? Not Yet Released.Don -- Yes that circle represents another model. Like any other model I would expect that the author of the model would say that it is grounded in reality, so I would say the original question remains.
For example, all of those headings around the… -
kochiekoch
Reaction (Post)September 17, 2025 at 1:49 PM Yes, Happy Birthday Bryan! Thank you for all that you do! -
Don
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 1:07 PM […]
Depends what you mean by "different". My impression is that most everyone would agree that alert, excited, happy, calm, etc are positive feelings; and stressed, upset, nervous, bored are negative feelings. Those positive and negative sides can be… -
Don
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 1:01 PM […]
I would bet that that "middle ground" is not as stable as your argument and Cicero's is making it out to be. If you actually ask someone supposedly experiencing this "middle ground," I would meet they'd defer to adjectives like calm, bored, relaxed,… -
Pacatus
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Cassius
PostSeptember 17, 2025 at 12:04 PM Don -- Yes that circle represents another model. Like any other model I would expect that the author of the model would say that it is grounded in reality, so I would say the original question remains.
For example, all of those headings around the…
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