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kochiekoch
February 25, 2026 at 5:31 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Don’s post in the thread An Analogy That Should Live Forever In Infamy Along With His Ridiculous "Cave" Analogy - Socrates' "Second Sailing".[…]
By Zeus, *THIS* is the basis of Western philosophy??
*THIS* is why society or culture or academia refer to the natural philosophers as *PRE-SOCRATIC* and largely dismiss them as irrelevant???
I admit I've never heard of the "second sailing" but, from my… -
Kalosyni
February 25, 2026 at 5:16 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Cassius’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".[…]
I agree that it is important to emphasize joy, and the failure to do so is a big problem in modern Epicurean discussion.
However, from Diogenes Laertius:
And Epicurus in the work on Choice speaks as follows: ‘Freedom from trouble in the mind and from… -
Don
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Godfrey
February 25, 2026 at 12:26 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Cassius’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".[…]
I agree that it is important to emphasize joy, and the failure to do so is a big problem in modern Epicurean discussion.
However, from Diogenes Laertius:
And Epicurus in the work on Choice speaks as follows: ‘Freedom from trouble in the mind and from… -
Martin
February 25, 2026 at 11:13 AM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Kalosyni’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".There is no mandate by gods that Epicurean philosophical thought should be promoted for the sake of progeny or for the future benefit of humanity (unlike various world religions) and there is no mandate to convert people to Epicureanism. Given that this… -
Cassius
February 25, 2026 at 10:33 AM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".Post[…]
I agree that it is important to emphasize joy, and the failure to do so is a big problem in modern Epicurean discussion.
However, from Diogenes Laertius:
And Epicurus in the work on Choice speaks as follows: ‘Freedom from trouble in the mind and from… -
Kalosyni
February 25, 2026 at 10:08 AM Posted the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".ThreadThere is no mandate by gods that Epicurean philosophical thought should be promoted for the sake of progeny or for the future benefit of humanity (unlike various world religions) and there is no mandate to convert people to Epicureanism. Given that this… -
Cassius
Reaction (Post)February 25, 2026 at 5:36 AM Welcome MCTIMKAT! -
wbernys
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Cassius
February 24, 2026 at 5:27 PM Replied to the thread Welcome MCTIMKAT!.PostWelcome MCTIMKAT!
He tells me --
As I approach my 70th birthday, I have been reviewing my life up to this milestone point, and in so doing have developed a strong desire to consolidate the experiences of those years into a coherent philosophy of living to…
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