Posts by michelepinto

Quote from Cassius

Excellent! Michele do the words touch on the philosophical details or are they sort of general "odes to joy"?

Are the words for both works available somewhere that we can take a look at?

We are still looking for them. I'll let you know.

Yes, the music ha words. And we in Senigallia are planning to play a part of them this august. I'll let you know.
And, yes, we'll record it.

A few days ago I came to know two works dedicated to Epicurus, one by Luigi Cherubini (1800) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Cherubini, the other by Antonio Draghi (1672) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Draghi.

They were performed in 2011 in an appointment organized by the University of Bologna.

ilcultodiepiicuro_pieghevole.pdf

Cassius, I definitively love you!

I have a questions. Since not all the people are the same in their relationship with pleasure, may be Epicurus teaching are good for some kind of people and are not good for a different kind of people?

First of all: I have always wanted to make these speeches, to bring the philosophy of Epicurus into practice. I'm happy to be here!

Second: unfortunately the language gap is felt and even with Google's help I don't always understand everything.

Then my point is that we can be happy with little, it is not necessary to add other (expensive) pleasures to be happy.

Finally: Cassius, thank you for your valuable considerations.

I have a three year old boy, when I give him a toy he is happy. My wife and I like to see him happy, so we give him lots of toys. The result: the toys pile up and shortly afterwards they no longer give him any pleasure.

Here is a simple example of why adding pleasure to pleasures is useless, it's definitely better to look for serenity. No boredom like no pain. In the case of my child, play with him, even without any toys.

Quote from Cassius

WOW Michele that italian song is a great addition. Can you tell us anything about who wrote it, put it together, etc?

(And of course Mattheu/LD I love AD too!)

It is a work of Natale Missale of 50 song. He tries to explain all the story of philosophy.
(https://www.amazon.it/gp/produ…XBL4B6/ref=dm_ws_sp_ps_dp)

There are three songs for Plato, three for Aristotele and just one for Epicurus...

No this is correct. The thesis of Bignone is that Epicurus knows some of Aristotele's work. And most scholarsbelieve that.
As I said I did not read it.

This song explain Epicurean philosophy. But is in Italian.

Lyrics:
Il medico vero è quello che cura il corpo malato che bene non stà.

Filosofo vero, assai veritiero è quello che il Vero dell'anima dà.

La malattia dell'anima è la non verità che turbamenti ti regala fino a sazietà.

Dal niente niente, nessun ente ma potrà dissolversi nel nulla, no no no.

Il piacere fa bene. Il dolore fa male. Basta solo provare per potere capire.

La suprema virtute stà nel viver felice; il supremo piacere nel dolore kaput.

Assente il dolore la vita è OK. Assente il dolore la vita è mejor.

Un sapere che non dà felicità anche se poggia sulla Verità è privo di valore, credi a me.

Nel mio "Giardino", la felicità si beve come un'acqua frizzantina.

Lascia l'innaturale, la città e i calcoli del male espellerai.

Google translation:

The real doctor is the one who takes care of the sick body that is not good.

True philosopher, very truthful is what the True of the soul gives.

The sickness of the soul is the untruth that upsets you up to satiety.

From nothing nothing, no entity but can dissolve into nothingness, no no no.

Pleasure is good. Pain hurts. Just try to understand.

The supreme virtue lies in happy living; the supreme pleasure in kaput pain.

Absent pain life is OK. Absent the pain, life is better.

A knowledge that does not give happiness even if it is based on Truth is worthless, believe me.

In my "Garden", happiness is drunk like sparkling water.

Leave the unnatural, the city and you will expel the calculations of evil.

Quote from Clive

I am retired and I live in Norwich, England. I do quite a lot of reading in connection with my various interests. I don't know what else to say, really. What else would you like to know about me?

We are not so far! At last still in Europe.

Quote from Cassius

Here is a comment about scholarship in England made by DeWitt in the intro to his book - I wish I could read Italian - maybe michelepinto could tell me if he has read Bignone and likes him!

I did not read this, still.. is very big.
I read the translation of Epicurus's writing in Italian by Ettore Bignone. They are good but too old. It is difficult to understend them now if you do not know already Epicurus.

The event will be all in Greek? Or something is in English?
Is not too far from my home, but I do not speak Greek at all...

Thanks for your great job!

Yes, you are right, privacy is important. We can do something like "group in build" for people that would like to create a group in their city or state.

If anyone will like some epicurean friend in Italy... Please contact me!

Why report only groups? Could we not also mention individuals?

Sent!
I was christian. And I started writing this story to put in evidence what was similar in Epicureanism a Cristianity. Just writing this I changed my mind. And the difference became more and more evident every page. So I made my choice.
I really hope you enjoy.

We agree completely.
Recently I listened an "imaginary interview" with Epicurus on Italian Radio (

). The actor who was interpreting Epicurus said that all the misunderstanding about his hedonism was good because it had attracted a lot of people to his doctrine.

(I know my English is horrible.. forgive me!)

No, I did not published this yet. I can send you via mail.

I'm trying to setup an Epicurean Festival in Italy.
I have a lot of epicurean friends in Italian, but we are not a group. We are working on it.