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  • Planning for Upcoming Voice Chats on DeWitt's Epicurus and His Philosophy

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 21, 2018 at 5:01 PM

    Is there a hyperlink for this.
    How do I join?

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 8:43 PM

    If you watch that second video to the end, I think you'll agree that it resolves. Not sure. I hope I'm not wasting your time, having you watch these videos. Don't feel obligated to watch them all. New to me does not mean new to you.

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 8:41 PM

    Have you bumped into Nietsche's notion of "divine animal"? I never heard about it until I watched this, but it seems to match some of my personal, but not yet well developed notions, and seems to match Epicurus' rejection of consciousness/logic being among that animals weakest asset.

    Epicurus says we can live like gods...

    Epicurus points us to our natural faculties.

    Sometimes I like play with the notion that my naturally selected body, soul (nervous system), emotions/instincts, and automatic parts of my brain are "The God" ("divine" animal) that protects me, looks out for me, guide me...give me life/zest.

    I'm curious to explore what else Nietsche says about the "divine animal" in us.

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM

    I like what you wrote. Or better said, I like how I feel, when I consider what your wrote, in support of PD39. Considering that seems to wake me (the "divine" animal in me) up.

    :)

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM

    This video seems to continue on the "same" topic.

    Not that Epicureans deny death, or strive to be the hero...

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 7:55 PM

    I don't really know where I'm going with this.

    Just "thinking outloud".

    It seems to me that Epicurus rejects all forms contrived restrictions excepts those that are not contrived directly by us, such as those that are Natural (physics, chemistry), and those that are part of our Nature (biological, social...).

    It seems that he rejects those restrictions that vary from culture to culture, but warns us to beware of them so as not to end up having them take more of our freedoms too.

    As self domesticated animals who have been selected by prior generations/cultures we continue to select those who conform most and also those who cheat while appearing to conform. So we will change the nature of people of future generations too.

    Folks imagine this as the will of God, KIngs, divinity, or as Fate, or as something else, but it seems pretty clear to me that we are doing this to ourselves, and don't have to accept where its taking us.

    Yet even being aware of that... As the video says, we are not even aware of the freedoms that have been lost generation by generation, nor are we aware of how unable we'd be able to cope in a world where everyone was free of these contrived restrictions.

    Some folks have struck out on their own isolating themselves from society and failed miserably, only to come back more grateful than ever.

    Epicurus set up his home, school, near a major city, yet on his own private land. It seems the best of both worlds. Some freedoms while still being able to choose to play by society/culture when convenient.

  • Epicurean Freedom. Enslavement by culture. The mob.

    • Harrington Andros
    • April 19, 2018 at 12:42 PM

    I listened to this and feel it's at least partly compatible with Epicurean views, on Freedom, Culture and The Mob.

    Agreed?

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