Italian Artwork With Representtions of Epicurus

Thanks to Michele Pinto I see these two paintings of Epicurus by Agostino ScilliI have never before seen!

http://epicuro.org/gli-epicuro-di-agostino-scilla/

The blog post linked here tells about them. That blog post also mentions the Raphael School of Athens, and the representation that is ATTRIBUTED as being Epicurus, but which Elli has shown, is probably not, as there is another character who DOES look very much like Epicurus! As soon as I can find a good link I will post that discussion here in this thread too -- perhaps Elli already has a good link (?()

Yes Michele, as Elli indicates --- after she posted her theory two years ago, we got into quite a debate as to whether the Italians knew what Epicurus looked like before the discovery of the Herculaneum busts with his name inscribed.

Can you help us get to the bottom of this?

After all, you are now our resident expert on all things Epicurean in Italy!!!

Elli I consider both of these to be pretty good likenesses of Epicurus as a "younger" man -- do you agree?

By no means do they look like that little cherub with the garland on his head that people point to in the School of Athens fresco!

Note that in both of these Epicurus is associated with a jar of some kind. Could that be a reference to the "full jar" analogy that we know of at least from Lucretius book 6 and other places?

Michele can you help us with other details and potential symbolism of these two paintings?