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The Argument That the Good Of Animals is Not the Same As The Good of Human Beings

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    • March 3, 2025 at 3:10 PM
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    This is a recurring argument against Epicurean ethics, so I wanted to make sure we had a thread on where to find instances of it:

    Cicero argues against Epicurus on the distinction between the good of an animal and the good of a human being in several of his works. Here are the relevant references:

    1. De Finibus Bonorum et Malorum (On the Ends of Good and Evil)
      • Book I, Sections 29-30: Cicero challenges the Epicurean idea that pleasure is the highest good and argues that human beings have a higher nature than animals.
      • Book II, Sections 12-15: He critiques the Epicurean view that human beings begin life seeking pleasure in the same way as animals and questions whether this is sufficient for defining human good.
      • Book V, Sections 23-25: Cicero, through the character of Piso, refutes the idea that human good can be reduced to pleasure, emphasizing the role of reason and virtue.
    2. Tusculanae Disputationes (Tusculan Disputations)
      • Book V, Sections 76-77: Cicero distinguishes between human and animal pleasures, arguing that reason elevates humans beyond the mere pursuit of bodily pleasure.
    3. De Natura Deorum (On the Nature of the Gods)
      • Book I, Section 41: He critiques the Epicurean notion that gods exist in a state of perfect pleasure, drawing a parallel to how animals and humans conceive of the good differently.


    This also appears in Aristotle:

    Aristotle, EN I .5 1095b19-20 (Cf. Heraclitus frr. 4 and 29, and Plato, Rep. 586 a-b)
    Most entirely slavish people clearly choose the life of cattle...

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