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    • October 30, 2023 at 7:58 PM
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    The idealized garb of philosophers among the Greeks was taken from the symbols of Cynicism: a cloak to keep off the elements, a bag or purse to hold all of one's worldly possessions, and a staff for walking. The staff and purse are shown on the Boscoreale treasure's philosophy cup. No cloak was necessary here--all of the figures on the cup are skeletons, underlining the link between philosophy and death.

    But Epicurus was not a Cynic. He also didn't hold forth publicly in the regimented world of the gymnasiarchs. Presumably he wore what was handy, some of it purchased and some, perhaps, gifted.

    Plato's Academy mosaic - Wikipedia
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    This mosaic from Herculaneum is thought to depict Greek philosophers as Romans would have imagined them.

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    • May 30, 2024 at 1:26 PM
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    I am part way through Heroes, the second volume of Stephen Fry's Mythos series, and can heartily recommend them as a good reintroduction to Greek mythology. The audiobooks, read by Fry himself, are especially pleasant. The work is narrative and not scholarly, but the stories are good and the author is passionate about then.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07SLLYGF6?ref_=dbs_m_mng_wam_calw_tkin_0&storeType=ebooks

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    • May 30, 2024 at 2:20 PM
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    For those who want to check which libraries near them have the print book ;)

    Heroes : the Greek myths reimagined | WorldCat.org
    In this continuation of "Mythos," Stephen Fry recounts the stories of the human heroes found in Greek mythology, with illustrations of classical art inspired…
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    How to Make a Ancient Roman Toga | Getty News :)

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    • January 12, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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    Quote from Cassius

    This topic came up Wednesday night when we were discussing that there doesn't seem to be a lot of detailed information on our usual core pages about the political situation in Athens during the specific years that Epicurus was alive.

    I do want to recommend Plutarch's Life of Demetrius Poliorcetes (link), which does recount many of the top news stories from 305 to 283 BC, which was during Epikouros' prime. (link for Loeb).

    Staggeringly wealthy celebrity women...

    Worship of a living man as a god in Athens...

    "Soapgate," i.e., Leadership of Athens spending millions of dollars of tax payer money (Silver value: ~$5.7 million. Labor value: ~$300 million) on imported toiletries for a group elite prostitutes...

    Skyscraper war-machines on wheels (10 stories high)...

    etc. and those are just the early years!

    Edited 6 times, last by Bryan (January 12, 2025 at 11:56 PM).

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    • January 13, 2025 at 8:09 AM
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    I presume this is an older edition but looks like there is an Archive.org link here:

    Plutarch's Lives : Plutarch : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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  • Kalosyni February 21, 2025 at 9:17 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Ancient Greek/Roman Customs, Culture, History” to “Ancient Greek/Roman Customs, Culture, Clothing, Historical Events”.
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    • March 26, 2025 at 7:58 AM
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    An interesting article: "Ancient Greek and Roman statues often smelled like roses, a new study says":

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    Cecilie Brøns, a senior researcher and curator of the Glyptoteket museum's collection of ancient Greek and Roman art in Copenhagen, Denmark, says ancient texts provide evidence that statues were often scented with perfumes, oils and waxes.

    https://www.npr.org/2025/03/25/nx-s1-5332367/ancient-greece-rome-statues-smell-study-research

  • Kalosyni June 27, 2025 at 9:55 AM

    Changed the title of the thread from “Ancient Greek/Roman Customs, Culture, Clothing, Historical Events” to “Ancient Greek/Roman Customs, Culture, and Clothing”.
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    • September 17, 2025 at 7:18 PM
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    Epicurus likely would have been familiar with the cult of Eirene (eirene = peace).

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    Eirene (/aɪˈriːniː/; Ancient Greek: Εἰρήνη, Eirḗnē, [ei̯ˈrɛːnɛː], lit. "Peace"),[1] more commonly known in English as Peace, is one of the Horae, the personification and goddess of peace in Greek mythology and ancient religion. She was depicted in art as a beautiful young woman carrying a cornucopia, sceptre, and a torch or rhyton. She is usually said to be the daughter of Zeus and Themis and thus sister of Dike and Eunomia. Her Roman equivalent is the goddess Pax.

    Eirene was particularly well regarded by the citizens of Athens. After a naval victory over Sparta in 375 BC, the Athenians established a cult for Peace, erecting altars to her. They held an annual state sacrifice to her after 371 BC to commemorate the Common Peace of that year and set up a votive statue in her honour in the Agora of Athens. The statue was executed in bronze by Cephisodotus the Elder, likely the father or uncle[2] of the famous sculptor Praxiteles. It was acclaimed by the Athenians, who depicted it on vases and coins.[3]

    Although the statue is now lost, it was copied in marble by the Romans; one of the best surviving copies is in the Munich Glyptothek. It depicts the goddess carrying a child with her left arm—Plutus, the god of plenty and son of Demeter, the goddess of agriculture. Peace's missing right hand once held a sceptre. She is shown gazing maternally at Plutus, who is looking back at her trustingly. The statue is an allegory for Plenty (i.e., Plutus) prospering under the protection of Peace; it constituted a public appeal to good sense.[3] The copy in the Glyptothek was originally in the collection of the Villa Albani in Rome but was looted and taken to France by Napoleon I. Following Napoleon's fall, the statue was bought by Ludwig I of Bavaria.[4]

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