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October 20, 2024 - Twentieth Commemoration and Epicurean Philosophy Discussion Zoom - Special Time Zone Meeting

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    • October 9, 2024 at 6:33 PM
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    This month the 20th falls on a Sunday, and we are holding the Twentieth at a special time:

    -- 1pm EDT (USA) --

    This time should hopefully help make it easier for members in Europe and other places to attend -- This meeting is open to all forum members. (In November we will go back to our usual meeting time).

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    Background: The Twentieth as a commemoration and assembly date was established by the ancient Epicureans in memory of Epicurus and Metrodorus.

    From the will of Epicurus in Diogenes Laertius:

    "The income of the property left by me to Amynomachus and Timocrates shall be divided by them as far as possible, with the advice of Hermarchus, for the offerings in honor of my father and mother and brothers, and for the customary celebration of my birthday every year on the tenth of Gamelion, and likewise for the assembly of my disciples which takes place on the twentieth of each month, having been established in recollection of myself and Metrodorus. Let them also keep the day of my brothers in Poseideon and the day of Polyaenus in Metageitmon, as I have done myself."

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    October 20th Agenda:

    • Welcome
    • Short reading in commemoration of Epicurus and Metrodorus
    • Short biography of this month's notable Epicureans: Titus Lucretius Carus and Rabirius and Catius Insuber
    • Open discussion on Epicurean philosophy and popular forum threads, current topics on the forum, the podcast, Epicurean musings and projects, etc.
    • Closing comments

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    Anyone who has attended the 20th in the past, will automatically be added to the private Zoom link conversation.

    For anyone else, please let us know here in this thread or by private conversation, so that we can get the link to you.

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    • October 9, 2024 at 7:55 PM
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    αὔριον εἰς λιτήν σε καλιάδα, φίλτατε Πείσων,

    ἐξ ἐνάτης ἕλκει μουσοφιλὴς ἕταρος,

    εἰκάδα δειπνίζων ἐνιαύσιον: εἰ δ᾽ ἀπολείψεις

    οὔθατα καὶ Βρομίου χιογενῆ πρόποσιν,

    ἀλλ᾽ ἑτάρους ὄψει παναληθέας, ἀλλ᾽ ἐπακούσῃ

    Φαιήκων γαίης πουλὺ μελιχρότερα:

    ἢν δέ ποτε στρέψῃς καὶ ἐς ἡμέας ὄμματα, Πείσων,

    ἄξομεν ἐκ λιτῆς εἰκάδα πιοτέρην.

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    • October 10, 2024 at 8:44 AM
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    Quote from Don

    αὔριον εἰς λιτήν σε καλιάδα, φίλτατε Πείσων,

    ἐξ ἐνάτης ἕλκει μουσοφιλὴς ἕταρος,

    εἰκάδα δειπνίζων ἐνιαύσιον: εἰ δ᾽ ἀπολείψεις

    οὔθατα καὶ Βρομίου χιογενῆ πρόποσιν,

    ἀλλ᾽ ἑτάρους ὄψει παναληθέας, ἀλλ᾽ ἐπακούσῃ

    Φαιήκων γαίης πουλὺ μελιχρότερα:

    ἢν δέ ποτε στρέψῃς καὶ ἐς ἡμέας ὄμματα, Πείσων,

    ἄξομεν ἐκ λιτῆς εἰκάδα πιοτέρην.

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    Don English translation?

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    • October 10, 2024 at 9:04 AM
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    Quote from Don

    αὔριον εἰς λιτήν σε καλιάδα, φίλτατε Πείσων,

    ἐξ ἐνάτης ἕλκει μουσοφιλὴς ἕταρος,

    εἰκάδα δειπνίζων ἐνιαύσιον: εἰ δ᾽ ἀπολείψεις

    οὔθατα καὶ Βρομίου χιογενῆ πρόποσιν,

    ἀλλ᾽ ἑτάρους ὄψει παναληθέας, ἀλλ᾽ ἐπακούσῃ

    Φαιήκων γαίης πουλὺ μελιχρότερα:

    ἢν δέ ποτε στρέψῃς καὶ ἐς ἡμέας ὄμματα, Πείσων,

    ἄξομεν ἐκ λιτῆς εἰκάδα πιοτέρην.

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    It's Philodemus' epigram invitation to Piso to attend the Twentieth at Philodemus self+described καλιάς "hut, wooden dwelling." Metaphorically, it can refer to a bird's nest or can refer to a shrine.

    To-morrow, dearest Piso, your friend, beloved by the Muses, who keeps our annual feast of the twentieth * invites you to come after the ninth hour to his simple cottage. If you miss udders and draughts of Chian wine, you will see at least sincere friends and you will hear things far sweeter than the land of the Phaeacians. But if you ever cast your eyes on me, Piso, we shall celebrate the twentieth richly instead of simply.

    Philodemus: Epigrams - translation

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    • October 10, 2024 at 2:36 PM
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    I am able and willing to attend : )

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    • October 10, 2024 at 2:49 PM
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    I am able and willing to attend : )

    Thank you Eric . You'll receive the link by private message the day before the meeting. :)

  • Kalosyni October 14, 2024 at 6:44 PM

    Changed the title of the thread from “October 20, 2024 - Twentieth Commemoration Zoom - Special Time Zone Meeting” to “October 20, 2024 - Twentieth Commemoration and Epicurean Philosophy Discussion Zoom - Special Time Zone Meeting”.

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