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Explaining In Summary Form How A Man In Extreme Pain Can Be Said To Be "Happy"

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    • April 21, 2024 at 8:48 AM
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    The Biblical Definitions Of The Pursuit Of Happiness
    How should we construe the right to pursue happiness? The problem is that the words "happy" and "happiness" are used today in variety of interrelated but…
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    In the modern period, "happiness" is the customary translation for eudaimonia in classical Greek ethics (beatitudo in Latin): the perfection or realization of a person's function as a human being, which is presumed to be the ultimate human good, the goal of goals.

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    Boethius uses two terms usually translated today as "happiness": beatitudo and felicitas. When Geoffrey Chaucer translated this work into English in the 14th century, he did not translate either term as "happiness." I doubt whether the idea would have crossed his mind. Instead, he rendered felicitas as "felicitee" (which was already available), and he coined a felicitous new word for beatitudo: "wellfulness."

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    • June 30, 2024 at 12:26 PM
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    Hicks definitely has the upper hand that on the rack the wise man will still cry out.

    I had not fully appreciated the fact that, when his excellent edition of Diogenes Laertius was published, Hicks had already been blind for over 25 years.

    Wikipedia says "Between 1898 and 1900 Robert Hicks became blind, but he nevertheless produced most of his major works after this time, aided by his wife." They even produced Latin dictionary in braille. I think his translation of the letter to Herodotus is in some ways better than Bailey's.

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    I am wondering what the "score card" is on this? How many translations say "will" cry out and how many "will not" cry out?

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