The Real Impact of Epicurus saying the celestial bodies weren't gods!

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    Start 32:07, talking about Gal. 4:3, 8-9

    This is the mention of the elements that comes up from time to time.

    I've become a fan of Data Over Dogma, and this episode talks about Cicero, the gods, and implies what a revolution it really was for Epicurus to say the stars were not gods!

    Fascinating stuff (to me)!

    Thanks for the link and yes that part is great!

    He's reinforcing in my mind how useful a resource Cicero is in both On the Nature of the Gods and On Ends too.

    I am really looking forward to going through both in detail. I think going through On Ends is going to clarify in our minds a lot of the things we have been discussing as to what a lot of these debates were about.

    Just like that podcast is saying Cicero, allows us to get into the minds of the 2000 year old debaters and in doing so I think we will see a lot that we don't currently see.

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