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    • July 7, 2023 at 4:24 PM
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    402r

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    • July 7, 2023 at 4:30 PM
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    Very frustrating that it does not seem to allow a link to a particular page. Don how long is the whole document - should we screen clip it and post it in a "general" thread in the Vatican Sayings forum? Even if it has a watermark it would probably still be satisfying to see a representation of the whole thing.

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    • July 7, 2023 at 4:39 PM
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    how long is the whole document

    Good question. ....counting... 7 pages: 401v to 404v

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    • July 7, 2023 at 4:44 PM
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    I note that clicking on the "Read More" button on the page you are linking to brings up this:

    And I note that you are referencing (for example) 402r for this page.

    When I look under items 5 and 6 which might seem to apply, I see only Epictetus. I sure hope they didn't mislabel it and I am somehow on the wrong page.


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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:11 PM
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    They got that wrong. It's Epicurus.

    You're not seeing the pages from that link?

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:13 PM
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    Well it opens up but to the book cover. I was hoping to find somewhere a direct link to the page where the particular text appears.

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    You should see the folio/page numbers along that bottom.

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:25 PM
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    Well it opens up but to the book cover. I was hoping to find somewhere a direct link to the page where the particular text appears.

    Are looking on mobile or laptop?

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:26 PM
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    Florilegium seu gnomologium Epicureum

    "Epicurean anthology or collection of sayings"

    Fascinating that they translated ἀνθολογία (anthologia)--"Flower words"--directly into Latin as Florilegium--"Flower words" again. In both cases really meaning a collection of poems, epitaphs, maxims or sayings.

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:27 PM
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    Are looking on mobile or laptop?

    I am on a laptop (Albeit with a small screen)

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:35 PM
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    So, here's what I *hoped* you'd see... with the page numbers at the bottom

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:43 PM
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    Try this...

    DigiVatLib

    I dug around a little more and it looks like you can link directly to pages (albeit I'm getting a 2-page spread from that link)

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:48 PM
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    YES that works!

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    • July 7, 2023 at 5:54 PM
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    YES that works!

    Cool. I'll go back in and change those links in VS1-11 & 81.

    Honestly, I have completely selfish reasons for putting those snippets in the forum threads. I'll never have to look them up when we ask "What does that say?"🤔

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    I know it is a lot of work so it never hurts to say "Thank you for all your work Don!!"

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