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    • November 28, 2020 at 1:33 PM
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    Living in a cave": I don't remember the texts talking about a cave. Am I correct in assuming you use this as hyperbolic shorthand for your opposition to literal interpretations of lathe biosas "live unknown" and "Epicurus forbade being active in politics"?

    Yes - exactly.

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    But I do see a general recommendation to not rock the boat, and I think this comes from Epicurus's own life experience.

    i would rather put that "a general recommendation to be prudent in how you go about rocking the boat.". I think you are correct and Epicurus saw himself as a revolutionary , but knew that the deepest revolution has to be prepared for at a deep level - a position we face too today, I think.

    Sorry to be short but I am driving....

    In general I agree with your comments - what you perceive is there mostky due to ten years of fencing with Stoics on facebook who think that there is nothing interesting about Epicurus other than a twist-of-words take on asceticism. And on general they are quite unstoically assertive in how they advocate their position and ridicule the common sense approach you are taking.

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    • November 28, 2020 at 1:38 PM
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    Hey! Be careful driving! =O

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    general recommendation to be prudent in how you go about rocking the boat.

    I like that take!

    Ah, the Stoics! A thorn in our sides for 2,000 years ;)

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    • November 28, 2020 at 2:21 PM
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    i do have a tendency to be sarcastic and hyperbolic and without hearing my voice that can be a danger I have to watch.

    But I will say in accord with the letter to Menoeceus that I would rather worship at the altar of a revealed religion any day of the week rather than give in to an across the board asceticism in the name of "freedom from pain" or in the name of "virtue."

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    • November 28, 2020 at 4:56 PM
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    i do have a tendency to be sarcastic and hyperbolic and without hearing my voice that can be a danger I have to watch.

    But I will say in accord with the letter to Menoeceus that I would rather worship at the altar of a revealed religion any day of the week rather than give in to an across the board asceticism in the name of "freedom from pain" or in the name of "virtue."

    How do you say amen in Greek? Oh, yeah....

    ἀμήν!!

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    • November 29, 2020 at 1:34 PM
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    Don as for an example of the drift toward asceticism which is so widespread, check out this post: Is Romantic Love a Vainglory

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    • November 29, 2020 at 2:01 PM
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    Don as for an example of the drift toward asceticism which is so widespread, check out this post: Is Romantic Love a Vainglory

    Yep. Noticed that "drift" there too.

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