Ethics - General Discussion

In this section we discuss Epicurean Ethics and how to live as an Epicurean in a world where there are no supernatural gods and no life after death.

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    2. A Place to Start

      • Cassius
      • January 21, 2019 at 4:41 PM
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      • January 21, 2019 at 4:41 PM
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    2. An Epicurean "Sanity Check" 14

      • Cassius
      • February 2, 2019 at 11:55 PM
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      • February 5, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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    4. Cassius

      February 5, 2019 at 8:20 AM

    2. Priorities: How To Rank "Pursuing Pleasure" vs. "Avoiding Pain" 2

      • Cassius
      • February 4, 2019 at 5:10 PM
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      • February 5, 2019 at 5:18 PM
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    4. Cassius

      February 5, 2019 at 5:18 PM

    2. On The Relationship of Eudaemonia And Pleasure

      • Cassius
      • July 10, 2019 at 7:02 AM
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    2. Are You Epicurean Or Hieronymian? 26

      • Cassius
      • October 1, 2019 at 2:08 PM
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      • June 30, 2022 at 5:44 AM
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    4. Cassius

      June 30, 2022 at 5:44 AM

    2. From Elli: ""And the pleasure which we daily feel in all these things helps us to banish any sorrow." - Pericles the Athenian.

      • Cassius
      • January 6, 2021 at 10:27 AM
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    2. Epicurus On Money, And A Connection With Limits Referenced By A Modern Philosopher 2

      • Cassius
      • June 11, 2021 at 9:42 AM
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    4. Cassius

      June 11, 2021 at 9:42 AM

    2. Would There Be Benefit In Adapting the "Benjamin Franklin Journaling Model" To Our Discussion of Practical Exercises? 16

      • Cassius
      • July 12, 2021 at 12:26 PM
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    4. A_Gardner

      July 12, 2021 at 12:26 PM

    2. To What Extent Is This Consistent With Epicurean Ethics: "Life is Short - Life Passionately"

      • Cassius
      • October 6, 2021 at 4:08 PM
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      • October 6, 2021 at 4:08 PM
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    2. As to the Term "Hedonic Calculus" or the "Calculus of Advantage" 22

      • Cassius
      • February 27, 2022 at 7:26 AM
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      • March 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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    4. Godfrey

      March 1, 2022 at 12:03 PM

    2. Identifying And Dealing With Significant Error / Mistakes in Ourselves (and Others)

      • Cassius
      • April 21, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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      • April 21, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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    2. Epicureans On Kingship 15

      • Cassius
      • August 2, 2022 at 10:16 AM
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      • October 10, 2022 at 5:11 AM
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    4. Sid

      October 10, 2022 at 5:11 AM

    2. We Need A Game Show With A Lightning Round Question: "Happiness or Pleasure? - Why?" 28

      • Cassius
      • February 2, 2023 at 8:16 PM
      • Cassius
      • February 5, 2023 at 3:43 PM
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    4. Little Rocker

      February 5, 2023 at 3:43 PM

    2. Imagery On The Interplay Between "Pursue Pleasure" and 'Avoid Pain" 33

      • Cassius
      • March 28, 2023 at 9:09 AM
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      • March 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM
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    4. Don

      March 31, 2023 at 10:10 AM

    2. Epicurus And Pleasure As The Awareness Of Smooth Motion 13

      • Cassius
      • February 6, 2024 at 12:24 PM
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    4. Cassius

      February 6, 2024 at 12:24 PM

    2. "Living Life Full Measure" as an Epicurean Metaphor 3

      • Cassius
      • May 15, 2023 at 2:28 PM
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    4. Pacatus

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    2. Would You Rather Live For A Week As (1) Epicurus During the Last Week of His Life or (2) An Anonymous Shepherd Laying In The Grass In The Summertime With No Pain At All? 104

      • Cassius
      • September 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM
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      • October 22, 2023 at 3:28 PM
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    4. Pacatus

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    2. Practical Pleasure-Pain Perspectives: How Different is 99% Pleasure From 100% Pleasure? 13

      • Cassius
      • October 5, 2023 at 12:06 PM
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      • October 6, 2023 at 10:24 AM
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    4. Cassius

      October 6, 2023 at 10:24 AM

    2. If Death Is Nothing To Us, Then Life Is Everything to Us 29

      • Cassius
      • October 7, 2023 at 12:06 AM
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      • October 7, 2023 at 8:22 PM
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    4. Cassius

      October 7, 2023 at 8:22 PM

    2. Explaining Perspectives - Chart Of Whole Organism vs Discrete Feelings

      • Cassius
      • October 17, 2023 at 8:52 AM
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      • October 17, 2023 at 8:52 AM
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    2. Is All "Ataraxia" Equal? 30

      • Cassius
      • November 18, 2023 at 7:47 PM
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      • February 19, 2024 at 12:29 PM
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    4. Cassius

      February 19, 2024 at 12:29 PM

    2. Tips On Offsetting Pleasures Against Pains 24

      • Cassius
      • November 28, 2023 at 8:27 AM
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    4. Cassius

      November 29, 2023 at 9:56 AM

    2. My 2024 Resolution: Get A More Accurate Picture of Epicurean Pleasure To The World Rather Than "Tranquility" or "Live Unkown"(Comment on Irish Times Article) 15

      • Cassius
      • January 1, 2024 at 7:03 AM
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    4. Eikadistes

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    2. If We Agree For The Sake of Argument That "The Perfect Should Not Be The Enemy of The Good," then let's ask "What *Should* We Consider To Be The Proper Relationship Between The Perfect And The Good?" 8

      • Cassius
      • February 26, 2024 at 4:43 PM
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    4. Don

      February 29, 2024 at 12:22 AM

    2. Given The Stress That Many Greek Philosophers' Placed On "Virtue" or a perfect view of "The Good" As The Ultimate Goal, To What Extent Would An Epicurus Have Considered That Approach An "Unnatural and Unnecessary Desire?" 4

      • Cassius
      • February 26, 2024 at 4:51 PM
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      • February 26, 2024 at 10:48 PM
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    4. Don

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    2. Explaining In Summary Form How A Man In Extreme Pain Can Be Said To Be "Happy" 22

      • Cassius
      • April 20, 2024 at 5:38 AM
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      July 1, 2024 at 1:24 PM

    2. When Epicureans Choose Pain / When Epicureans Treat Pain As Good 4

      • Cassius
      • December 22, 2024 at 8:51 AM
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    4. Don

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    2. "Peace and Safety" vs. "Conflict and Danger" 7

      • Cassius
      • February 2, 2025 at 9:00 AM
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    2. The Argument That the Good Of Animals is Not the Same As The Good of Human Beings

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    2. Driving Away Bad Habits "Like Evil Men Who Have Long Done Us Great Harm" (Including Addictions)

      • Cassius
      • April 23, 2025 at 4:17 PM
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    2. Epicurean philosophy skewing toward elements of Stoicism in the time of Lucretius?? 9

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    2. Preconceptions and PD24 42

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    2. The Use of Negation in Epicurean Philosophy Concepts 47

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