There Is No Necessity To Live Under the Control of Necessity - The Swerve And Rejection of Determinism

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    2. Key Citations - The Swerve - Its Nature And Effects

      • Cassius
      • January 23, 2021 at 9:19 AM
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    2. Determinism & Chaos Theory 8

      • Don
      • May 3, 2024 at 8:17 AM
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    2. Subjectivity And Freedom To Find Pleasure In Various Things 3

      • Cassius
      • May 18, 2024 at 3:59 PM
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    4. Don

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    2. Reference to Epicurus' Views On Determinism in Cicero's "On Fate"

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      • May 18, 2024 at 11:06 AM
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    2. Can Determinism Be Reconciled With Epicureanism? (Admin Edit - No, But Let's Talk About Why Not) 101

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      • September 24, 2022 at 8:46 AM
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    4. Bryan

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    2. An Anti-Stoic Analysis Of Free Will That May (Or May Not) Be Helpful To Us 4

      • Cassius
      • September 15, 2021 at 10:00 PM
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    4. Cassius

      July 16, 2023 at 4:55 PM

    2. The Atomic Billiard Board, or: Understanding the Swerve to Mechanistic Determinism 7

      • Charles
      • November 11, 2022 at 3:06 PM
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      • November 17, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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      November 17, 2022 at 10:52 AM

    2. Thoughts about Humean Compatibilism 4

      • SimonC
      • January 28, 2022 at 6:01 PM
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      • January 28, 2022 at 7:31 PM
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      January 28, 2022 at 7:31 PM

    2. Analysis of Video By Sabine Hossenfelder ("You Don't Have Free Will But Don't Worry") 14

      • Mathitis Kipouros
      • November 12, 2021 at 5:28 AM
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    4. Martin

      November 12, 2021 at 5:28 AM

    2. Free Will Again 11

      • Mathitis Kipouros
      • August 22, 2021 at 5:43 PM
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    4. Cassius

      August 22, 2021 at 5:43 PM

    2. Pierre-Marie Morel - "The Epicurean 'Up To Us' - Not To Be Proved"

      • Cassius
      • June 27, 2021 at 8:53 AM
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    2. Big Think Video on Free Will

      • Don
      • March 29, 2021 at 10:10 PM
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      • March 29, 2021 at 10:10 PM
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    2. Graphic - Arch-Enemy of Determinism and Skepticism 2

      • Cassius
      • June 20, 2020 at 9:32 AM
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    4. Cassius

      June 20, 2020 at 9:32 AM

    2. Sedley: "Epicurus' Refutation of Determinism" 4

      • Cassius
      • June 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM
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      June 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM

    2. Free Will and the Recognition of Pleasure, or the Role of Desire 9

      • Charles
      • April 19, 2020 at 8:53 AM
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      • April 24, 2020 at 9:14 PM
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      April 24, 2020 at 9:14 PM

    2. On Terminology In Discussing "Free Will"

      • Cassius
      • July 10, 2019 at 9:16 AM
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    2. Free Will And The Stoics 1

      • Cassius
      • June 26, 2019 at 8:23 AM
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    4. Cassius

      June 26, 2019 at 8:23 AM

    2. On Free Will And Its Mockers 3

      • Cassius
      • June 17, 2019 at 1:47 AM
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    4. Martin

      June 17, 2019 at 1:47 AM

    2. Please Post Threads About The Swerve's Relationship to Free Will At the Location Linked Below....

      • Cassius
      • June 16, 2019 at 11:16 AM
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    2. What's the Difference Between Chance and Fate to an Epicurean? 12

      • Cassius
      • January 22, 2019 at 5:56 PM
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    2. Starting Discussion of "Free Will" 18

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      • January 29, 2018 at 5:49 PM
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    2. What fears does modern science remove, as Epicurean physics did in antiquity? 31

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