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PD16

  • Cassius
  • April 11, 2021 at 7:40 PM

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  • Bailey: 16. In but few things chance hinders a wise man, but the greatest and most important matters, reason has ordained, and throughout the whole period of life does and will ordain.

    Bailey: 16. In but few things chance hinders a wise man, but the greatest and most important matters, reason has ordained, and throughout the whole period of life does and will ordain.

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Cassius
August 28, 2021 at 3:31 AM

Maybe one of many other ways to say it would be something like. "Even a wise many can be injured or killed by freak accidents, but the wise man will use reasoned judgement to avoid unnecessary dangers and live successfully in every aspect of his life, especially the most important ones."

Cassius
August 28, 2021 at 3:28 AM

I think this one is useful for letting us see that proper reasoning is a very important part of life, bit it is also geared toward the issue of Fate and agency and saying that despite the fact that some things are beyond our control, for most people most of the time we do have a great deal of influence over what we do and how we do it, and we should act reasonably to see that we stay in control of our circumstances if we want to live as happily as possible.

Mathitis Kipouros
August 28, 2021 at 12:36 AM

Cassius my friend, would you please put this in a simpler way? I think this is one of those instances were language is not helping me. Thanks.

Cassius
August 29, 2021 at 7:49 PM

Question: Cassius, I wish to continue asking you about PD16 here, if you don't mind, since the comments in that section of the website don't appear in my notification inbox. I feel disoriented about this PD bearing in mind the context of the thread about reason/logic. I understand "reason has ordained" as "reason has decreed", and this is confusing. "Reason has decreed" the most important matters? And what does this have to do with a man reducing the things that are out of his control (being wise to diminish chance)?

Answer: They don't ? that is not good. Maybe if you "subscribe" to the topic? Gosh I agree that "ordained" is a weird word. I'd like Don to comment on this too since he is good at the translations, so I will past this Q / A into that thread and see if he sees it. I think it means "through use of reason we can control" most things and limit the impact of chance.








Cassius
August 29, 2021 at 7:50 PM

Q: Cassius, I wish to continue asking you about PD16 here, if you don't mind, since the comments in that section of the website don't appear in my notification inbox. I feel disoriented about this PD bearing in mind the context of the thread about reason/logic.

I understand "reason has ordained" as "reason has decreed", and this is confusing. "Reason has decreed" the most important matters?

And what does this have to do with a man reducing the things that are out of his control (being wise to diminish chance)?

Thanks


A: They don't ? that is not good. Maybe if you "subscribe" to the topic? Gosh I agree that "ordained" is a weird word. I'd like Don to comment on this too since he is good at the translations, so I will past this Q / A into that thread and see if he sees it. I think it means "through use of reason we can control" most things and limit the impact of chance.

Mathitis Kipouros
August 29, 2021 at 9:05 PM

The tagging seems to work differently here too: Cassius  Don but it doesn't give you the option to "pick" the tagged person as in the regular forums, nor does it highlight it in red.

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